Posted on 08/21/2014 4:29:00 PM PDT by NYer
The consecrated host, who Oklahoma City's Archbishop claims was stolen by Satanic Priest Adam Daniels for use in September's “Black Mass”, has been returned.
An attorney representing the satanic church presented the host to a catholic priest in Oklahoma City, Thursday afternoon.
8/21/2014 Related Story: OKC Archbishop Files Lawsuit Over Black Mass
Archbishop Paul Coakley previously filed a lawsuit, asking a district judge to stop the Black Mass, scheduled for Sept. 21. With the return of the host, Coakley has agreed to dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice.
Daniels released the following statement regarding the incident:
"I, Dastur Adam Daniels, returned this consecrated host to Arch-Bishop [sic] Paul Coakley. The reason for this return is based solely on the fact I refuse to waste thousands of dollars fighting over a nasty cookie that some man said a prayer over. The Black Mass of Oklahoma will continue as planned with the original host that has been used since 1666, course [sic] black bread. We will moved [sic] forward using the Concentration [sic] found in Black Mass. Nothing has changed and we will still move forward with worshiping
spot on Ronin
but to stand passively by and not attempt to stop the desecration - would you not be a participant in Christ’s Death
Didn’t he die for the future our sins in the future.
but your are spot on they are powerless
AMDG
you must not believe Scripture then
When Christ said in John 6: “take you all and eat of it, for This is My Body” do you think it looked differently to the apostles?
If the bread that Christ broke and bless and distributed to the apostles didn’t change some way in appearance to those present - did that mean Christ was lying? or that it didn’t actually occur as He said?
He said “Do this in remembrance of Me”.
We Catholics do as He commands us in the Scripture - do you?
We do it For the Greater Glory of God
At the risk of a major league thread diversion, just why are we tolerating satanists anyhow? (Note, the lower case in the previous sentence is intentional because I refuse to even give that mediocre level of respect to those who worship evil.)
Let’s get real here, people. Does anyone really believe our founding fathers meant religious freedom to include devil worship? Satan (OK, its the start of the sentence so I’ll use a capital there) is the epitome of evil, the focus and anthesis of Good. To worship the devil should be to cut yourself off from civilization and citizenship. Devil worshipers should be exterminated.
you must have missed, skipped over or ignored John 6 then or are those versus missing from your Bible??
John 6:25-69:
Following the details of the multiplication of the loaves and fishes—biographical, Jesus walking on the sea—biographical, Jesus reacts to the crowds’ need for signs. Jesus takes them from manna, bread from heaven, to “true bread from heaven (v. 32)” ... “I am the bread (v. 35).” “I am the bread that came down from heaven (v. 41).” This is God saying this: “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” If He was not really the bread that came down from heaven, His omnipotent and creative Word would then have made it so.
Five times in different verbal expressions, Jesus confirmed the reality of the meaning he intended.
Jn 6:51
I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.
Jn 6:53
Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.”
Jn 6:54
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
Jn 6:55
For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
Jn 6:56
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
The best way a person can make a clear literal point is repetition of the same message in different ways. Jesus did this. Those around him clearly understood what he was saying—cannibalism and the drinking of blood—both forbidden by Mosaic Law.
Jn 6:60,66
Then many of his disciples who were listening said, “This saying is hard; who can accept it?” ... As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him - is this you ravenwolf??
For the Greater Glory of God
Bread and eating both have different meanings, Jesus has the way to ever lasting life if we eat his words which are his flesh and blood we can have everlasting life.
But that is another story, the wafer or cracker if that is what it is called by the Satanist obviously came through the mail, he said a friend sent it to him.
Was the friend a priest from the catholic Church? did they contact him to see if the cracker had been consecrated?
Also I know nothing about Catholic doctrine because so much of it is not even mentioned in the Bible, can a piece of bread still be consecrated after it leaves the hands and go some other place except the mouth?
Even if I believed a priest could turn a wafer into the body of Christ I see no reason to believe that this one we are talking about is anything but a cracker or wafer or a piece of bread.
Besides if a priest could put Jesus in a cracker he could also do any thing else like defeating the Satanist by just thinking a thought.
His people here (the Mafa) must have greased the right palms.
He was the "guest manager" at a new hotel out in the middle of the Saudi desert. Wow. He was as safe over there as he would be on the moon.
Scary guy. THAT should be on his epitaph.
Bad joke.
There is absolutely no physical change when a Host is consecrated.
When she was a nun in New Jersey, Mother Angelica erected a Marian shrine with money from some local hoods. Of course, it was known as “Our Lady of the Mafia.”
There is absolutely no physical change in the Host when it is consecrated. The Church’s understanding of “transubstantiation” is not so materialistic or crude.
Bump.....
Read John 6. Jesus says he is going to give his body and blood as “food” and “drink,” to be “eaten.” He allowed a large number of people to abandon him, rather than call them back to explain that it was all “symbolic.”
... so they could be certain it had been returned and not substituted.
geezz, where do Catholics get these ideas? not from Scripture. The bread and wine are symbolic.
And that is in scripture? I don't recall Christ saying "Take ye and eat. This is a symbol of my body . . ." But he did say "This is my body." Is. I don't see anything symbolic there. God says it IS and it IS. Either you take him at His word, or you do not. I never will understand why Protestants look for literal applications of six days in creation but then reject Christ's actual literal words. Either they do not believe that Christ is God (or maybe that God cannot do what He says) or they are taking a page from Bill Clinton and trying to argue about what "is" means. In either case, it is a rather absurd position.
Where in the Bible does it say that we are to believe nothing that is not taught explicitly in the Bible?
The dogma that the Bible contains everything that we are to believe is not found in the Bible, and is a man-made dogma.
Catholics are my brothers in Christ. This devil-worshiping pervert is a servant of the enemy.
I will stand with my brothers.
Where in the Bible does it say that we are to believe nothing that is not taught explicitly in the Bible?
I’m not buying that this host was ever consecrated in the first place.
I have been suspicious of this story right from the start.
This devil-worshiping pervert is a servant of the enemy.
I will stand with my brothers.
“Good to see posters here siding with the Satanists. You’ve made your allegiance clear.”
Please explain what you mean by that comment, Mr(s) ‘wideawake?’!
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