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Weep for slaughtered Christians, not for dialogue with Islam
Catholic Culture.org ^ | August 29, 2014 | By Phil Lawler

Posted on 08/30/2014 11:23:26 AM PDT by Salvation

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Powerful last line: It’s easy enough to say that Islam is a religion of peace. But sometimes, paradoxically, it is necessary to fight for peace. Once the fight has begun, it’s time to choose sides.
1 posted on 08/30/2014 11:23:26 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Phil Lawler Ping.

Any comments?


2 posted on 08/30/2014 11:24:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Then we, too, would be terrorists.”

NONSENSE!!

“It is good to fear the sword of the state, for it has it’s purpose.”

Romans 13:4


3 posted on 08/30/2014 11:38:08 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm tired of people not recognizing sarcasm!)
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To: Salvation

False dilemma to claim that the only choices are taking revenge and doing nothing at all.


4 posted on 08/30/2014 11:43:37 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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On one extreme is the thirst for vengeance. If Muslims extremists kill innocent Christians, intemperate voices suggest that we should kill innocent Muslims

Nah, both of them should be spared.

5 posted on 08/30/2014 11:47:31 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Salvation

Christians dying by the scores by Muslims is no issue.

Let someone offend a Muslim and the world is offended.


6 posted on 08/30/2014 11:50:01 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: Salvation

The time for dialogue is over.


7 posted on 08/30/2014 11:52:45 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: G Larry

AMEN!


8 posted on 08/30/2014 11:54:52 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Salvation

9 posted on 08/30/2014 12:04:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Salvation

War of Grenada part II.

Screw em...


10 posted on 08/30/2014 12:09:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Thus last week Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga said that he feared the brutal persecution of Christians by the Islamic State “may push back advancements in the Christian-Muslim dialogue.”

What a moron...There is no Christian-muzlim dialogue, only Catholic-muzlim dialogue...

And never will be...

11 posted on 08/30/2014 12:13:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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Islam is a religion whose founding principles promote expansion of the religion through violent means. To say otherwise is a deception. It is not nor has it ever been a peaceful religion.

We should not confuse the differing roles of individual christians and of governments. They are not the same.

Governments must protect their citizens from threats to their freedoms by use of diplomacy and force when necessary. Christians are called to love God ( the triune) with all their heart and mind..through prayer and adherence to the 10 commandments. We are to be Christ’s light in the world. Even if that means becoming martyrs.

Christians should engage in dialogue with everyone...remember Jesus told the apostles to deliver His message to all. Christ’s love and mercy is the best spiritual weapon there is against evil. In this sense the Cardinal is not wrong. However, governments and their leaders must use all necessary means to protect civilians including what necessary force is needed to get the job done.


12 posted on 08/30/2014 12:30:28 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Salvation
They have no desire to share ideas with Iraqi Christians; they want to annihilate them

This particular trait the Islamists share with "progressives" - they have no interest in dialogue or parity, they seek the annihilation of their opponents.

The nature of evil, I guess.

13 posted on 08/30/2014 12:31:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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The Almighty will know His own. They have had ample opportunity to repent. They glory in the slaughter of the faithful of Christ. They see dialogue as weakness--it gives them more fervor in their evil ways.

You cannot reason with Rabid dogs, but you can pray for them, even as you remove the threat.

14 posted on 08/30/2014 12:43:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Read it again. He said we would be terrorists if we targeted the innocent. He's right abosut that.

That's far different from targeting the aggressors, which is not only our right but our obligation. We need to target them, crush them, eliminate them.

15 posted on 08/30/2014 1:21:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fides et Ratio.)
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To: Olog-hai
"False dilemma to claim that the only choices are taking revenge and doing nothing at all."

Lawler did not claim that massacre of the innocent, or surrender, were the only two choices. He specifically called them "two unhelpful emotional reactions."

He knows--- and you do too ---t hat there's a difference between indiscrimiante killing, which is murder, and descrimiante killing --- targeing the aggressor and his assets, in order to destroy them --- which constitutes a Just War.

16 posted on 08/30/2014 1:24:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fides et Ratio.)
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I of course would be very surprised if the Bishops called for blood, but who do they want to dialogue with? There is not a parity in Islam. There is no one leader. They are a bunch of 7th century nut jobs.

Innocent Muslims? That's a loaded couple of words that defies description.

Does make me wonder whether the left of the Church did indeed push Pope Benedict out. But even with Benedict, we lacked a Thatcher and a Reagan.

17 posted on 08/30/2014 1:25:51 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Iscool
You are not well informed. There is Evangelical-Muslim Dialogue (LINK), and has been for many decades.
18 posted on 08/30/2014 1:28:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fides et Ratio.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

True, but others may interpret the “extremes” as the sole choices.


19 posted on 08/30/2014 1:32:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They would be wrong.


20 posted on 08/30/2014 1:35:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fides et Ratio.)
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