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To: Zuriel

Zuriel, you’re quoting in many cases scripture in the wrong administration and influenced by religious legalism, and in denial of clear scripture as to what true baptism now is in this administration:

Hebrews 9:10 -

“Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.”

Here, we see stated the old rituals done away with at the reform “Day of pentecost/administration of grace” which began in Acts 1.

Act 1:5 -

“For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.”

Act 18:25-26 -

This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.

26 -

“And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.”

Here’s another example of how water baptism was still being practiced early on in the Church because of tradition. Like Paul, those people began to realize the true baptism of the new administration.

And when Paul had met with Apollos’ disciples, he was not satisfied with water baptism and taught them to be baptized into the name of Jesus Christ!

Romans 10:9 -

“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

Rom 10:10 -

“For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”


242 posted on 09/07/2014 9:09:11 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: ScottfromNJ

**And when Paul had met with Apollos’ disciples, he was not satisfied with water baptism and taught them to be baptized into the name of Jesus Christ!**

Paul not only ‘taught them to be baptized into the name of Jesus Christ’, they then “were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus”. After which, when Paul laid his hands on them, they received the Holy Ghost baptism.

**Hebrews 9:10 -“Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.” Here, we see stated the old rituals done away with at the reform “Day of pentecost/administration of grace” which began in Acts 1.**

In Heb. 6:1-3, the writer is not discontinuing the ‘doctrine of Christ’, which included repentance from dead works, faith toward God, the doctrine of baptisms(plural), laying on of hands, resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgement. For he says: “And this we will do, if God permit”.

You see, the epistles were written to those already born again, already sanctified (saints). That includes Romans, which people incorrectly use as evangelistic teaching (bypassing all or much of Acts), instead of as it really is: instruction and edification to the saints.

Remember my pointing out how Paul said to the Corinthians (some of which were of Gentile ethnicity) “ALL our fathers were under the cloud, and ALL passed through the sea, and were ALL baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea.”

The Israelites were as good as dead without crossing the Red Sea. Could God have preserved them with just the cloud? God knows, but he wanted them to leave that world behind and begin a new life. So, he made a way of escape, and it was ‘though the sea’. They then continued on with the cloud leading them.

Mainline Christianity makes ‘passing through the sea’ kinda important, but not urgent, and that it certainly doesn’t save. Moses would beg to differ with you.


256 posted on 09/07/2014 12:09:06 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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