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Pope faces setback over gays and divorcees
News 3 NZ ^ | 10-19-2014

Posted on 10/18/2014 1:42:43 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

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To: Tax-chick

> “I think this is a complete misunderstanding of what he has said on these topics.”

I think you have hit on the Pope’s weakness; being able to articulate what it is he is trying to do.

This Pope or any Pope has no excuse in making their words and views known. They are not blocked or diverted by the press and they are not impeded by language.

Yet so many news reports from Catholic clergy from all over the world have reported angst in understanding what this Pope is trying to say or do.

But your first sentence illuminates the entire dilemma:

“The headline is implying that Pope Francis wants the Synod to say that adultery and sodomy are not sins.”

So much of the press is homosexual or conditioned to normalize homosexuality. They are pushing and pushing relentlessly to have the headlines read just as you state above. Why then is Pope Francis not responding and providing clarity on what he is intending or saying?

For homosexuals to be accepted by the Church and to receive communion, they must give up their homosexuality and repent of it and all other sins. But they will not agree to this. They want the Church to recognize their sexual perversity as normal. Why then would the Pope plant seeds of thought or at least fail to arrest such thoughts that homosexuals in civil unions have something good to contribute to the Church?

And why is the Pope or is the Pope using the word ‘gay’ rather than the correct term ‘homosexual’? Homosexuals push and claim the word ‘gay’ to camouflage the true nature of their perversity.


21 posted on 10/18/2014 3:01:20 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

I understand what you’re saying. I’m a faithful Catholic reader assuming that the Pope is a faithful Catholic speaker/writer. I do not find what he says to be anything but the Catholic Faith, of which I am a student as well as a believer.

However, I am not the only type of reader. There are those of ill will. There are people whose ideology I can’t clearly state. There are those who are ignorant of both Christianity in general and Catholicism in specific.

Whether it would be more productive in terms of the salvation of souls (the only Christian criterion) for the Pope to let his communication be controlled by the ill-willed and/or ignorant audience is not my judgment call to make. It is his. Perhaps his judgment is in error. None of us will know this side of Heaven (or Purgatory, perhaps).


22 posted on 10/18/2014 3:08:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Feeling fine about the end of the world!)
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To: Citizen Zed
"...famously saying of homosexuals, "Who am I to judge?"

Who indeed.

23 posted on 10/18/2014 3:39:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Hugin
yes, adultery is with a married woman...but if a man has sex with an unmarried woman, he is expected to marry her.

and Jesus said that even if you view a woman with lust in your heart, you are essentially committing adultery with her.

In the ancient pagan world, it was about your wife being unfaithful, but the servant girls and slaves were fair game. So were the servant boys and your male pupils. Of course, none of these people had a say if they wanted to have sex or not.

Ah, but “who am I to judge”? Bull.

We docs don't “judge” our patients, but often we point out the harm they are doing to themselves and their families.

24 posted on 10/18/2014 4:01:16 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Citizen Zed

What they are implying is the same usual liberal claptrap the main stream media is drunk with. They are attempting to set up a false narrative...and many low-information voters are being sucked in.


25 posted on 10/18/2014 4:20:45 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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