Posted on 11/14/2014 1:01:10 PM PST by millegan
The term “fundamentalist” is a pejorative term today, used to label someone the speaker believes is an irrational religious extremist of some kind.
But a hundred years ago, the term was taken as a badge of honor by theologically conservative Protestants to distinguish themselves from liberal Protestantism. While liberal Protestants in mainline denominations were denying basic Christian teachings like the authority of the Bible and the bodily resurrection of Jesus, conservative Protestants called for going back to the “fundamentals” of the faith – hence the term.
There are obviously a lot of issues on which Catholics and fundamentalists disagree, but there are a few important issues for which fundamentalists take a lot of heat in our culture that Catholics actually agree with them on – or at least are supposed to. Unfortunately, in my experience many Catholics – afraid to have themselves labeled a “fundamentalist” – can throw the baby out with the bath water and end up denying beliefs espoused by fundamentalists that are also taught by the Catholic Church.
Here are 5 things that are already present in the Catholic faith, but that Catholics could learn from their fundamentalist brothers and sisters to take more seriously:
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Of course you have not, just as in your omniscience you ridiculously asserted and maintained, "there is not and never has been a scintilla of anti-protestant bigotry on FR," And can make other claims which were exposed already are not to be carried on here.
You simply have no credibility in this area.
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“The Holy Spirit can do the job.”
My, my, it is so very frustrating.
The Holy Spirit, which is one of the three persons in our One God, does what He does when He does it for His own reasons.
Experience shows that the Holy Spirit comes upon people only infrequently, and that only on rare individuals.
If you think the Holy Spirit is helping you understand what you read, and you have not had an earth-shattering, entirely unique, draining, and unmistakable supernatural experience, you are mistaken.
“He got his PHD in ancient languages-—Greek, Hebrew, etc.”
One of the most exceedingly wrong-headed, wrong-hearted, unwise, and downright stupid people it has ever been my misfortune to meet had a PhD.
Your minister may be a great scholar, for all I know, but credentials don’t impress me.
“Add to this that the blind rarely see much of anything.”
While the congenitally hysterical see proof of anything they like, wherever they look.
“You simply have no credibility in this area.”
There are people in the world—though not here on FR, of course—who make a practice of pronouncing judgment on other people’s credibility, as though they had been promoted to lord high arbiter thereof.
The difference between those people and educated Catholics is that the latter are capable of applying both reason and faith to the solution of the problems that God poses to us, for our edification.
Thanks for the comment. My advice is to get a one year Bible reading plan. If you have a tablet or smart phone you can download a Bible App named “YouVersion.” You can select which ever Bible version you like (there are two Catholic versions among many others). There are also reading plans in the App. My favorite is one which takes you through the OT once, Psalms and NT twice in a year.
Being able to quote the Bible and find passages easily comes from continuous Bible reading and study.
It’s God’s revelation to us. Let us read!
Ephesians 4:18New International Version (NIV)
18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.
Good verse to memorize. An elder once taught the Sunday school “the Bible will keep you from sin, and sin will keep you from the Bible. PS 119:11 was the basis of the teaching along with 2 Timothy 3:
Ouch.
Yes 1 Corinthians 15 lays out the clear definition of the Gospel Christ commanded and was preached by the apostles and disciples. Also Paul tells us what makes us Christians and unlike any other religion/belief. It is the Resurrection!
You are so wrong that I will just start with the basics of milk.
Galatians 5:18New International Version (NIV)
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
This explains why Catholics don’t recognize the simplicity of the Holy Spirit they are still trying to obey the law with works and deeds.
John 16:13New International Version (NIV)
13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
Romans 8:14New International Version (NIV)
14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
1 Corinthians 12:1-11New International Version (NIV)
Concerning Spiritual Gifts
12 Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2 You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.
7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.
2 Corinthians 4:4New International Version (NIV)
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Indeed these are the same Muslims who killed and wounded good Catholics serving their country. Wow.
“You are so wrong that”
Take it up with God, if you don’t like it, because that’s Who I got it from.
John 7:45-49.
Gives us an example of “holier, wise intelligent” men think of the sheeple.
>>but the rule says if you want to become a priest, you must remain celibate and you must be MALE...<<
It seems the Eastern Orthodox got the marriage and family requirements but Rome did not;
1 Timothy 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
>>Experience shows that the Holy Spirit comes upon people only infrequently, and that only on rare individuals.<<
What you posted above may be Roman Rite teaching but it is not what was taught by Christ and His disciples.
Was Pentecost was a temporary event?
When did the Holy Spirit leave Cornelius?
All those epistles where Paul told fellow Christians they were filled with the Holy Spirit were inaccurate?
When Jesus promised the Comforter that was for a limited time?
1 Corinthians 2 King James Version (KJV)
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
How did you obtain information from God contrary to the verses posted to you?
I can’t WAIT for this to devolve into yet another C vs P thread!
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