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Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 24, 2014 | DENNIS BONNETTE

Posted on 11/24/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by NYer

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To: Partisan Gunslinger

“Evolution? Even so, there was not enough time to change bones and such.”

Oh really? How long does it take to “change bones and such”?

“You’ve been focusing on it a lot more than I have. lol”

You brought it up, I’ve just been trying to figure out why you seem to think it matters in a Biblical discussion.


581 posted on 11/28/2014 11:18:40 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: BroJoeK

were you a believer, and studied in the word of God, you would have known that there are no “natural explanations of natural processes.

The reason would be obvious to a believer:

The universe is not something that occurred by “natural” means, but by a deliberate work of special creation.

The fact that all that has been promoted in favor of “natural processes” has been shown to be fraudulent should give you pause.

All things physical that exist were planned.

No understanding is evident in your posts.

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582 posted on 11/28/2014 11:20:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Resettozero

I agree with your post and I do agree that most human achievements come from help from the Holy Spirit.


583 posted on 11/28/2014 11:30:05 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Elsie

>> “The BOOK says: Let Us create Man in Our image. So there you get some ‘sons of God’; right??” <<

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No! Absolutely not.

WE are not “Sons of God.”

Yeshua stated that we will BECOME sons of God. That is what will happen at the Last Trump, as Paul so plainly showed the Corinthians.

Sons of God are not produced biologically; they are each a special creation event of their own.

Sons of God are equipped to exist in the realm of the Father, as they are not of corruptible flesh.

All of the Angels are “sons of God,” being immortal, specially created beings.

Your chance at becoming a “son of God” will come at the first resurrection; have your “garment” on, for none that haven’t the garment will be admitted (parable of the marriage of the son, Matthew 22)


584 posted on 11/28/2014 11:39:17 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Resettozero
Okay, I'm calling you on this type of accusatory posting. RCs have done the same...and on this very thread.

Stop that.

CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE FIRST!

585 posted on 11/28/2014 11:46:09 AM PST by verga (Being "squishy" on discipline is just as destructive as being wrong on doctrine; in some ways, more)
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To: verga

Sorry, but no, he denounced all that CHANGED what the apostles taught.

The ‘catholic church’ brought in nothing but change from the apostles teaching. By the time that it was created, entropy alone had done massive damage, aside from the deliberate malfeasance of Rome. Hippolytus was probably the last to preach a gospel that was true to the apostles gospel.

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586 posted on 11/28/2014 11:50:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Boogieman

Scientifically, I’m sure! :o)

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587 posted on 11/28/2014 11:52:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: verga
CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE FIRST!

I think you just threw something at me but I couldn't tell what it was.

Are you okay today?
588 posted on 11/28/2014 11:52:19 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; Elsie
Yes, Adam lived before Noah. Abel and Seth were Adam's children. Cain is not listed as a son of Adam.

It figuratively kills me to have to agree with Elsie, but in this case hew is correct. Gen_4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

589 posted on 11/28/2014 11:55:50 AM PST by verga (Being "squishy" on discipline is just as destructive as being wrong on doctrine; in some ways, more)
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To: redleghunter

And yet to bears no relevance. As I said Ooooo goody!


590 posted on 11/28/2014 11:57:04 AM PST by verga (Being "squishy" on discipline is just as destructive as being wrong on doctrine; in some ways, more)
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To: verga
As I said Ooooo goody!

Was that an official RC nihil obstat and imprimatur answer?

591 posted on 11/28/2014 12:02:41 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I believe that Christ founded the Catholic Church the pillar and foundation of truth., The Apostles were her first bishops. Through Apostolic succession passed that Truth and faith on to the Catholic Church today.

You see it differently. Agree to disagree on this one.

592 posted on 11/28/2014 12:03:32 PM PST by verga (Being "squishy" on discipline is just as destructive as being wrong on doctrine; in some ways, more)
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To: verga
You see it differently. Agree to disagree on this one.

You see it as a choice of opinions presented here. Instead, it's a matter of what is true and not just who has the longest religion.
593 posted on 11/28/2014 12:06:47 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: verga

He didn’t say he was founding a church; he declared that he would build (increase) his already existing assembly.

There was no apostolic succession.

There are 12 apostles; the apostolic age ended with the death of John.

>> “Agree to disagree on this one.” <<

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For now, I guess.


594 posted on 11/28/2014 12:16:23 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Boogieman
Oh really? How long does it take to “change bones and such”?

In my example I said more than 400 years.

You brought it up, I’ve just been trying to figure out why you seem to think it matters in a Biblical discussion.

There were about 30 posts dealing with the sixth day creation before I arrived, some yours, so you have more posts on it than I do. And it was you that brought up the curse of Cain and "subhumans", which has nothing to do with the sixth day creation. So, yes, it seems to matter to you more than anyone.

595 posted on 11/28/2014 12:17:48 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: editor-surveyor
WE are not “Sons of God.”

The bible says Adam is a son of God.

596 posted on 11/28/2014 12:19:19 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: verga
It figuratively kills me to have to agree with Elsie, but in this case hew is correct. Gen_4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Imagine her surprise on having her first child. She did say "LORD", not Adam.

597 posted on 11/28/2014 12:21:51 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

No, the Bible does not say that Adam was a “son of God.”


598 posted on 11/28/2014 12:24:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Resettozero
You see it as a choice of opinions presented here.No absolutely not

Instead, it's a matter of what is true and not just who has the longest religion.

It has nothing to do with longevity, it that was true than paganism would be what I was following, or Judaism. Both have longer histories than the Catholic Church.

My wife's brother engaged me in apologetics to get me back into the Catholic Church. A number of well meaning protestant friends of mine suggested Tim LaHaye and Lorraine Boettner books to counter his arguments. I poured through them and found them so filled with error about Catholic beliefs and practices that it wasn't even funny. This caused me to look much closer at history. This drew me to in depth scripture study. When I began to compare the various beliefs of the different groups the Catholic Church was the only one that held up to scriptural practices, historical accuracy and precedent (She was the only one that could show unbroken succession back to Christ.)

No not opinion at all, longer drawn out careful study by someone that was hoping he could find the truth somewhere, anywhere else.

599 posted on 11/28/2014 12:30:54 PM PST by verga (Being "squishy" on discipline is just as destructive as being wrong on doctrine; in some ways, more)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, the Bible does not say that Adam was a “son of God.”

Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

600 posted on 11/28/2014 12:31:36 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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