Posted on 11/24/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by NYer
>>The modern day Israelis, in Israel, in Palestine, by the Mediterranean Sea, the sea of Galilee, and the Dead Sea are of the tribe of Judah. Happy?<<
Ok so the Israelis are not “Kenites” as Murray asserted in your view.
By your answer, then Romans 11 applies to real Jews and Israelites. So then to be in the 7000 you would hail from one of the 12 tribes of Israel. Why didn’t you state you were of Hebrew origin? Or were you approaching Romans 9-11 metaphorically as opposed to literally?
>>What was will be again.<<
All from one verse, Romans 11:4, out of context with the preceding two chapters.
>>I don’t have to do anything. Tune in once, Dish channel 256, mon-fri, 24 hours a day and it won’t be long until you hear the trinity taught.<<
So Murray has no transcripts of his sermons for me to examine?
Sorry no Dish. But I can read transcripts somewhere?
Well it’s quite odd there are no transcripts. I’m sure glad the apostles wrote things down and encouraged all to read. All I’m asking for is a link to READ some of Murray’s sermons.
I don’t have Dish network.
>>In Kings, posted earlier.<<
Yes I understand your approach but the OT has other examples of remnants too.
Murray made a prediction after the Mt St Helens eruption. It did not come true. Prophets make predictions and his did not come about.
>>Actually, the remnant of 7000 refers to 1Kings 19:18, which happened in the past. The Romans 11 context refers simply to a modern day remnant, exact number not specified in that passage.<<
Indeed but the clear literal interpretation seems to be a stumbling block on this thread.
>>Maybe some of you who don’t believe in the 7000 will hear the testimony and will remember this thread and come to your senses regarding the great deceiver.<<
Oh the “great deceiver” is at work today. I’m looking at some of the “fruit” of such with Murray’s heretical theories.
Amen.
No Sir you evaded my question twice.
Do you believe the Biblical account of God literally parting the Red Sea through Moses to deliver the Israelites from the army of Pharoah?
If not, at what point in the OT and/or NT do you believe the real literal miracles of God are evidenced?
LOL well old Humpty had a great fall after messing with Alice:)
Then we can get a gig with the Powers that be from Marvel!!!
HMMMmmm...
I wonder just WHY we would NEED this 'ability'...?
Didja notice the three I just posted??
You've never seen this verse? What does it mean to you?
Have you ever seen these verses? What do they mean to you?
5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
FRiend, I know what you intended to say -- you're in way over your head, have no clue what you're talking about, and are imagining points of disagreement where they don't exist.
editor-surveyor: "Creation is not a 'natural process.' "
Of course not, but natural-science only has one method of dealing with nature, and that's "natural explanations for natural processes".
If we don't like those explanations, we don't have to agree, but natural-science is never going to say, "God did it", regardless of how strongly we disagree.
editor-surveyor: "The age of enlightenment will be when you and the rest of the unbelievers stand in awe of the first resurrection, knowing that the ten days of the wrath of Yehova are about to be poured out on the world."
The Age of Enlightenment (aka Age of Reason) was a historical period, roughly 1650 to 1800 -- Bacon, Locke, Newton, Kant, Hume, Rouseau, Voltaire, etc. -- whose crowning glory was our Founders' Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
Of course, you may not like our Enlightenment Founders, or their Constitution, but that would be your problem, since most posters on Free Republic think rather highly of them.
editor-surveyor: "Trying to manipulate the word of God to create room for natural processes to replace acts of special creation is not an industry of promise."
Any Believer can believe whatever he/she thinks the Bible says, nothing wrong with that, provided you don't claim such beliefs are somehow "scientific", because they're not.
That said, the fact is the Bible's descriptions of God's Creative Actions are quite general enough to fit many natural-science processes into them.
I especially like that it says man was created "from the dust of the ground" -- lots of room for evolution there!
No sir, I answered your question, fully and directly, twice now, but you just don't like the answer, so you keep working at it, falsely claiming "no answer".
redleghunter: "Do you believe the Biblical account of God literally parting the Red Sea through Moses to deliver the Israelites from the army of Pharoah?"
Of course I do, isn't that clear?
But if you also asked, "can science prove, confirm or otherwise verify it?" the answer is: not so far as I know of, though some interesting hypotheses have been offered in explanation.
The fact is the Bible tells us God brought the Israelites out of slavery in Africa, and that remains the Truth, regardless of how much, or how little, of it can be confirmed scientifically.
redleghunter: "If not, at what point in the OT and/or NT do you believe the real literal miracles of God are evidenced?"
Evidenced? Physical evidence? Scientifically verifiable physical evidence? Of miracles?
The phrase "scientific evidence of miracles" is a contradiction in terms -- by definition, you can't have "scientific evidence" of a miracle, since science is forbidden from seeing the miracle, and can only describe whatever "natural processes" it finds.
I believe what the Bible says, while acknowledging that some of it can be explained in natural-science terms, and much cannot.
Your verbose nonsense accomplishes nothing.
Childish.
desist!
I have no idea if we will need to be invisible, but Yeshua thought it important to tell Nicodemus, so we’ll have to wait an see.
(or not see?)
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