Posted on 01/19/2015 5:25:30 PM PST by ebb tide
I'd rather have a destitute, beggar child go to Heaven, than him never being conceived. I don't know about you, though.
Your argument above is the same one Planned Parenthood preaches to poor blacks and whites to encourage abortions.
Such statements on illegal immigration, man-made global warming, and “neocolonialism” seem to indicate the pope and Obama have joined forces in a rhetorical war. This hack should not be allowed to address Congress. He will be reading White House talking points.
Do good Catholics call the Successor of Peter “idiot?” I think not. It is disrespectful and shows a lack of charity.
It is one thing to believe what you have written, which is certainly your own business, and it is legitimate to offer criticism, however, insults are inappropriate.
Charity demands one say something like, “I disagree with his remarks, and don’t like either the presentation or the tone. I think he is quite off the mark.” However, insults and name calling are just plain wrong.
Would you like to be called an idiot?
I predicted yesterday that this clown would probably come out for birth control and abortion.
Full quiver = excessive carbon footprint.
“Will he ever shut up? Will he kindly shut up”
I ask myself that question every day, because every day he says something dumber than the day before. On the flight where he insulted Catholics and compared them to breeding rabbits, he goes on to tell a reporter about him kicking someone in the ass because they said something he didn’t like. Just blabbing on trying to be funny. Remember when the pope actually conducted himself with grace and dignity? Seems like a lifetime ago.
Well, you may believe it be inferior, but it is part of the Ordinary Magisterium of the Church.
By office, are you in authority to deem the CCC inferior, or is it merely your opinion?
As I suspect it is your opinion, it appears you are holding people to a standard of your choosing, and not of the Church.
I don’t remember hearing so much about the daily lives of other Popes. I think I miss that. At least the other Popes weren’t crazy.
Big whoop! Altar chickettes and Holy Communion on the tongue are also parts of the Ordinary Rite of Mass. Doesn't mean either is "meet and just", nor is the silly, lazy notion of Ascension "Sunday".
None of the other Popes were Jesuits; they were all Catholics.
You are off the mark. I wish to have life brought into this world.
The teaching of the Church is based on a simple principal. One is not required to sex. If one chooses to abstain from sex in total, as in priests and the unmarried, it is admirable. If a husband and wife, having truly examined their desire to not have a child at a certain time, for good reason, they are not required to have sex during her fertile time.
What this DOES NOT teach, however, is something along the lines of not wanting a child out of convenience, or sacrifice. Those reasons would be selfish, and neither open to love nor to life.
Please do not insult me with even the remotest comparison to Planned Parenthood. They are pure evil.
Good for you. Too bad Francis isn't as gung-ho as you.
And still there are cathoholics who will defend “his highness” to the end. I had respect for Joe Ratzinger, but this man is nothing but a liberal stooge and tool.
Thank God I left that “church” years ago.
This seems rather odd for a Pope to suggest, if, IF it is true, I don’t trust the media though.
You are entitled to your opinion. However, it is just that, yours, binding on no one, in no place, and at no time.
Like Cardinal Burke, I am against female altar servers. I am for reception on the tongue.
On a separate note regarding liturgical abuses, it drives me crazy to see people (especially assisting deacons) ape the priest’s Orans Posture.
I have made my concerns known to the Pastor, as well as other priest, and my catechism pupils.
However, I have to trust, as Jesus told Peter, that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. And having read some of the most tempestuous times of the Church, we are doing pretty okay. Thank God we don’t have Arius around anymore.
From the above encyclical:
10. With regard to the biological processes, responsible parenthood means an awareness of, and respect for, their proper functions. In the procreative faculty the human mind discerns biological laws that apply to the human person.
With regard to man's innate drives and emotions, responsible parenthood means that man's reason and will must exert control over them.
With regard to physical, economic, psychological and social conditions, responsible parenthood is exercised by those who prudently and generously decide to have more children, and by those who, for serious reasons and with due respect to moral precepts, decide not to have additional children for either a certain or an indefinite period of time.
However, IMHO, there is still a problem with the Pope's words as reported. Specifically, his use of the disparaging phrase "like rabbits" as well as his off-hand, derisory reference to the pregnant lady with seven children. Sadly, +Francis' words reinforce the popular pejorative stereotype of Catholics who heroically follow Church teaching and do not use artificial contraception.
He could have made the point in a far more charitable, concise and less bombastic manner. However, as is by now routine, whenever a microphone is placed in front of him and a captive audience beckons, the sound of his own voice appears to be self-intoxicating.
If that's the case, why can't chaste homos marry?
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