Posted on 01/27/2015 1:34:47 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
And those who don’t have access to such, who are illiterate or maybe not as well versed on FFROman Catholic doctrine, see your primary teacher hugging a Transexual.
You think 0vomit is "misguided"? And a "liberal"? He's a moslem communist faggot illegal alien using a fake ID. Even if you think his name/ID is real, he's still a moslem communist tasked with destroying the US and promoting Islamic jihad. This is obvious to anyone with open eyes who's read even a bit of news in the last few years.
Are you telling me that the Pope has caused scandal?
Tell me something I don’t already know.
Who am I too judge?
That's mighty bold talk for a one eyed fatman; considering the following...
Pope Stephen VI (896897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (10321044, 1045, 10471048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (12941303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (13781389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (14921503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (15131521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (15231534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Why are so MANY Catholics SO judgmental over their new leader??
Not at all.
I’m saying your faith group isn’t as pure, doctrine wise as you implied up stream.
It cannot be said too often: He’s a muslim, Marxist illegal alien with a crudely forged birth certificate.
I just heard a line from Theodore Dalrymple about P.C. It’s not about convincing anybody. It’s about FORCING people to repeat the lies that their masters want them to repeat.
The crudely forged “birth certificate” was NEVER INTENDED TO FOOL ANYBODY (except the most contemptible of the proles). It was put out there to give the press corps, and Congress, etc., AN OBJECT TO BOW DOWN TO. It gave them an object ABOUT WHICH TO LIE. The important point being: It gave them the opportunity to participate actively and personally in the lie.
He didn’t say Bergoglio is the worst criminal, or the worst tyrant, etc. in Church history. He said he’s the “most astonishing HYPOCRITE” in Church history. Most of those “bad Popes” don’t seem much like hypocrites at all.
Looks like 'your lord' was wrong; for the book you guys assembled 2000 years ago records that THESE Catholic Churches were, indeed, teaching error.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_churches_of_Asia
The word SOME fell out of your posting...
Sounds like the start of a joke.
But this is no joke at all....
The Health Risks of gay sex.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.
2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
Just wait...
See, I don’t think the hugging of a transsexual in and of itself is what’s scandalous. I think the lack of clear Church teaching in connection with that hug is what’s scandalous.
If this was truly supposed to be a “private” meeting, it should have remained private.
If it is made public, then the conversation should be made public as well. Hopefully that conversation included making it quite clear to this man that he mortally sinned and must not marry and have a family with his “wife” (I honestly don’t know how one fixes a sex re-assignment....can that be reversed?)
Once public, this conversation should be made to help teach the world about the Catholic Faith (you know something a pope is responsible for doing)
Here we have a “private” (cough-cough) meeting and no indication that Francis told him anything of the sort. And that’s what makes it scandalous.
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You’ve missed an over 6,000 reply thread lately!
The Protestant Dark Side doesn't have those last two sets of extra baggage; but we DO have cookies!
Come on over!!
There is a distinction between THE Catholic Church and A Catholic Church. There have always been local churches.
For about a century, MOST of the Catholic bishops in the world were heretics—Arians. Currently, MOST of the Catholic bishops in the United States insist that pro-abortion politicians must be given Communion—which means that most of the Catholic bishops in the U.S. teach that abortion, and the promotion of abortion, are not sinful.
As long as the Catholic Church still exists, and it teaches what it has always taught, Christ’s promise will have been kept.
A valid distinction.
I am reasonably certain that the priest told this woman (she is not a man) that she could not receive Communion while having sexual relations of some sort with another woman, or anybody.
I have never met a priest who would tell anybody “You’re going to hell,” or “You’re disgusting!” yet when these people come forth, they always have tales of priests screaming insults at them, etc.
What the Pope has done is undermine every priest in the world who tries to prevent people from receiving Communion sacrilegiously, and who tries to encourage sinners to repent.
You are absolutely right: If the Pope is going have a PUBLIC HUG with this woman, the Pope has an obligation to tell the world that he told her she cannot “marry” another woman, and cannot receive Communion while having some sort of “sexual” relations with this other woman.
Oh?
Your definition of the word must be a wee bit different from mine.
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