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Rising IQs and the Decline of Faith
Crisis Magazine ^ | February 4, 2015 | JOE BISSONNETTE

Posted on 02/07/2015 2:26:36 PM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

An IQ test is just a measure of how someone is going to answer the questions put into it.

It is very obvious that when it comes to common sense, and survival that that the population has gone over a cliff in terms of intelligence. People are so much stupider that they cannot survive without the government taking care of them.

So when it comes to the most important intelligence and IQ test is a worthless piece of crap!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 02/07/2015 3:43:15 PM PST by Revel
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To: NYer

The title rather should say “ the rising of the influence of the main stream media, Hollywood, indoctrination of liberalism, commieism, feminism, atheism, Darwinism in public schools and institutions is the decline of faith “ .


42 posted on 02/07/2015 3:43:26 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: Gamecock; RnMomof7; SeaHawkFan
We once had a FReeper who claimed to have an extremly high IQ and claimed to be a believer.

167 IQ as I recall, although I think he was just trying to hustle someone.

43 posted on 02/07/2015 3:44:15 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

Standard IQ test maxes at 150, so he either took a special test or was blowing smoke.


44 posted on 02/07/2015 3:46:16 PM PST by piytar (If you don't know what taqiyya and the doctrine of abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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To: Fred Hayek

I had someone tell me they launched it as “ MTV “ under the guse of music, however the M really means “ Masonic “.
My response was, that I am not surprised or doubt it.


45 posted on 02/07/2015 3:47:46 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: piytar; Alex Murphy

**blowing smoke**

We always felt if one would connect the dots that would be the case.


46 posted on 02/07/2015 3:49:14 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like 0bama is a POTUS.)
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To: yarddog

Students certainly seem dumber. I was looking at an old syllabus here from our own country, not sure how old, but it was probably 3 or 4 times the normal workload from what we have today. Heavy on Shakespeare and even requiring readings from Augustine’s Confessions to other marvelous gems.

I am quite confident that the best students in colleges today would still be but average or below average students in the universities just a hundred years ago.


47 posted on 02/07/2015 3:49:43 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: NYer

I think IQ tests can be very accurate. The problem is so many in academia are just not honest. The tests are reliable but the testers are not.

As near as I can recall, every scientific paper which purports to show that gun control works has been found out to be fraudulent or at least slanted.

I have been a fan of Jeopardy since the host was Art Fleming. I still watch it but am getting suspicious that they are beginning to “game” the results. Maybe not out and out cheating but asking questions (answers) which favor certain contestants.


48 posted on 02/07/2015 3:53:30 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: marron
At the time of the founders, very few people went to college. What we've done is increase the number of people who go, but at the cost of lowering what a college education actually entails.
49 posted on 02/07/2015 4:05:44 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: NYer

Rising IQs, compared to what!? Absolutely meaningless.


50 posted on 02/07/2015 4:10:15 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yup! In Colorado, for instance, there are many “high” IQ dorks.


51 posted on 02/07/2015 4:12:27 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: NYer

Here is the flip side. The IQ crowd measures only rational straight line thought. But faith, i.e the ability to believe, is another form of high human intelligence, and equally as valid. The two are not mutually exclusive. The only problem is academic types go ape shit when you tell them this.


52 posted on 02/07/2015 4:26:38 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: NYer

“Knowledge puffeth” alert.


53 posted on 02/07/2015 4:29:14 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

Certainly explains why Newton was such a dullard and non believer.


54 posted on 02/07/2015 4:34:11 PM PST by jwalsh07 (E)
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To: NYer

Any casual reading of a newspaper decades or longer show a marked decrease in intelligent writing.


55 posted on 02/07/2015 4:36:22 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: NYer

IQ’s don’t “rise” - the instruments are standardized so that the average score always is set at 100 points and the standard deviation at 15 to 20 points depending on the test - every now and then when the scores do stray too far from these norms the test is recalibrated to comply with the standard - whatever marginal increase in scores which might have taken place over the last few decades is probably attributable to increased schooling and the spread of mass communication which increased people’s exposure to information and basic intellectual skills like arithmetic - it’s virtually impossible to come up with test questions which don’t have some loading on common knowledge and the 3 R’s.......


56 posted on 02/07/2015 4:40:21 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: NYer
The scores go up when there are no Christians around to observe the cheating.

Testers inflate the scores to get rewarded with higher salaries.

57 posted on 02/07/2015 4:45:17 PM PST by donna (Gov. Mike Huckabee beat the Clinton machine in Arkansas. He can do it again.)
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To: NYer

The flynn effect is a natural consequence of the dispersion of social strata. Many of the genes responsible for intelligence are dominant. Do the math.

The down side is that accompanying the increase of IQs is a disastrous decrease in the mean deviation.


58 posted on 02/07/2015 4:58:15 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: NYer
I'm not concerned about the pretensions of the irreligious.

We have Augustine.

59 posted on 02/07/2015 5:05:03 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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To: Moorings
I am also somewhat skeptical of the rising IQ's claim. At least from what I see around me.

And, yeah, that too.

60 posted on 02/07/2015 5:05:55 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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