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Statue of Pope Francis' new saint could be kicked out of US capitol
cna ^ | February 10, 2015 | Kevin J. Jones

Posted on 02/10/2015 10:42:43 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 02/10/2015 10:42:43 AM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/10/2015 10:43:00 AM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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Fr. Serra’s statue has been in the U.S. Capitol’s National Statuary Hall Collection since 1931. His statue [...] holds a cross aloft in his outstretched right arm. [...] Lara characterized the priest as “a controversial figure.”

Connect the dots.

3 posted on 02/10/2015 10:51:10 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: NYer

I like Sally Ride just fine, but....


4 posted on 02/10/2015 10:54:18 AM PST by Regal
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The PC types attack the Franciscan missionaries in California on various counts and claim that they enslaved the Indians.

They did teach the Indians to practice agriculture but the number of actual work days in a year was surprisingly low, and the food produced was consumed there--the priests lived a very simple life. Things got much worse for the Indians after the missions were secularized by the Mexican authorities and especially after the Americans from the eastern US started to arrive in large numbers.

5 posted on 02/10/2015 10:58:48 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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I’m sure it’s important to somebody that Ride was a lesbian, and that’s why her name is being put forward, and the Catholic priest is sought to be removed.


6 posted on 02/10/2015 10:59:31 AM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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The Left now equates Juniper Serra with Adolf Eichmann.

I saw them protesting Serra’s beatification in front of the Cathedral in downtown L.A. the Sunday before last.

They are total loons who cannot be reasoned with.

Truth is they think all Americans of European descent are guilty of genocide when you take their arguments to their logical conclusions.

This is nothing more than extreme PCness. That is pure insanity. You cannot reason with these insane fanatics.


7 posted on 02/10/2015 11:06:05 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

The Indians of California fought a lot among themselves (tribal wars) before the missions were built and that kind of warring was stopped. It wasn’t an Eden before the missionaries arrived.


8 posted on 02/10/2015 11:15:32 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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Sally Ride a less-controversial figure? One might recall that Jane Fonda was one of the VIP’s invited to be present when she was launched into space the first time.


9 posted on 02/10/2015 11:21:07 AM PST by Rufii
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Not just CA. All of the Western Hemisphere.

The Indians were no different than any other peoples inhabiting the planet.

They had advanced civilizations, built great cities, and huge empires. They enslaved others, had many wars, and some offered up human sacrifices.

The Left would all have us believe the Indians were early environmentalists, at one with nature, living in peace and harmony, singing kumbaya around the campfire.

What a crock of crap of course. I think it is from too much peyote in their peace pipes IMHO.


10 posted on 02/10/2015 11:29:16 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

^Exactly.

The Indians didn’t make things easy for anyone and frankly they did invent scalping, which was a horrendously painful way for people to die and a lot of pilgrims suffered horribly from attacks by tribes.


11 posted on 02/10/2015 11:42:56 AM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: ConservingFreedom

He was Christian ... therefore his memory must be destroyed.


12 posted on 02/10/2015 11:45:22 AM PST by NorthMountain
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Not just California. Everywhere else. The famed Sioux of the Great Plains moved there from the Ohio River Valley as did their cousin tribes with whom they warred such as the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara.

The Comanche originated in Wyoming, cousins of the Shoshone, and moved south and east when their proficiency with the horse allowed them to displace tribes native to that area.

The Pawnee moved north when they discovered corn would grow better in Nebraska than in Texas and northern Mexico, they could hunt buffalo in the off-season and there would be fewer conflicts with the Comanche.

Every tribe can tell similar stories.

13 posted on 02/10/2015 11:51:36 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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No Father Serra—there would be no California. The land that is California would belong to Russia and be called NovoRussa or something. That one little padre caused Spanish and Mexican California. Think the Natives would have been better under the Czar? Think again. Worse than that would be if America took over in 1800—None of the Native Americans would have survived under the Red, White and Blue. Pop history with a Liberal slant—is propaganda only. They would love to replace Christians with Islamic People (until they loose their heads).


14 posted on 02/10/2015 1:35:18 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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No Father Serra—there would be no California.

Yep ... and how the leftists seethe and rage over it.

15 posted on 02/10/2015 1:39:04 PM PST by NorthMountain
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Sen. Ricardo Lara has proposed that the priest's statue be replaced with a less “controversial” figure.

I bet he would be really happy to replace it che or cesar chavez or even fidel. All of them would be welcome and non controversial to a liberal.

16 posted on 02/10/2015 2:30:10 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Junipero Serra


17 posted on 02/10/2015 3:00:40 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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**Yet Fr. Serra’s supporters maintain that aside from his personal charisma, the beloved priest played a pivotal role in the development of the U.S. as we know it today.**

Amen!


18 posted on 02/10/2015 3:01:41 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Statue of Pope Francis' new saint could be kicked out of US capitol
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Blessed Junípero Serra 1713 - 1784 (Mission Chronology, Biography, etc.)
The Significance Of Blessed Junipero Serra (pictures of Missions)
Start a Serra Club in your area and support vocations to the priesthood and religious life.
19 posted on 02/10/2015 3:36:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Ameyn!


20 posted on 02/11/2015 6:48:15 AM PST by onedoug
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