Posted on 02/11/2015 3:05:42 PM PST by Graybeard58
Sure are.
Is believing in the Bible a form of idolatry?
Or is it that believing in one's own opinion is a form of idolatry -- ?
How does focusing on God’s ability to create the Earth in six days (vs some other amount of time) take the focus away from God?
“How does focusing on God’s ability to create the Earth in six days (vs some other amount of time) take the focus away from God?”
I referred to young Earth as the form of idolatry.
But not as old as Moses, who wrote this text down by instruction of Jehovah. Eh?
As far as Six days.
“How does focusing on God’s ability to create the Earth in six days (vs some other amount of time) take the focus away from God?”
Exactly as manifested in your question above. It puts the focus on petty argument regarding side issues.
“Is believing in the Bible a form of idolatry?”
No.
“Or is it that believing in one’s own opinion is a form of idolatry — ?”
This can be and often is, yes.
The post was to the issue of God’s dialog to Job, after Job had talked it all out to his friends about his suffering (the poster was referring to God’s dialog there).
In reference to that dialog, Job hadn’t discussed that he didn’t understand creation and that was the source of his grieving ... but that he didn’t understand his suffering. AND ... Job was pretty much “demanding it”. And finally, at the end God stepped in and was basically saying that the “entire story” (of what God knew) was far far beyond Job and that he was going to have to accept that God was far beyond his understanding ... and that’s where it was going to stay.
That wasn’t a commentary by God on “creation” in that mankind could not understand what GOD HAD TOLD THEM, but it was a commentary on the fact that mankind was not going to understand what GOD HAD NOT TOLD THEM! And in that, they were going to have to accept the fact that these unknown things, that God had not told them about was going to remain far far beyond mankind.
In relation to the creation account, some of those things not told would be (for an example) ... “What is the mechanism by which God can merely “speak” and the thing can happen?” AND ... there are a thousand questions like that, which God has not said a thing about.
That which he has told us about, he expects us to know and understand it.
The secret things are the Lord’s. Perhaps in time He will tell us how He did it. Until then we should show humility regarding what we don’t fully understand. In the meantime, we should worry to keep what we do understand. Here in a nutshell is why the Western world is in decline. We have treated the Word of God as an unholy and common thing. It no longer speaks with authority to or informs our culture/s as it once did. When it did, we saw the blessings. Now that we are post-christian, we see the decline - and it is rapid. 50 million abortions shows where we’re at. The places where the Gospel is bearing fruit are in many of the South American countries and in China. The West is basically the Laodicean church. Materially wealthy, spiritually poor if not dead. Full of men’s opinions, ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the Truth. Can we expect less than God’s judgement. Perhaps persecution will clean us up but it may just be the price we have to pay to prove once and for all who’s we are.
The Bible being the inerrant and infallible word of God, yes ... everything God says, we are to believe. He made it all, so he should know ... :-) ...
Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy with Exposition
http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html
Judging an argument as petty doesn’t automatically equate it with idolatry. This is only your opinion.
Idolatry is worshiping something other than God. No one is worshipping something other than God here. Therefore, this is not idolatry.
Perhaps the evolutionists will evolve into creationists.
“...but it was a commentary on the fact that mankind was not going to understand what GOD HAD NOT TOLD THEM!”
Thank you for that explanation. Of course I can often be like a two-year old when God gives me an answer, or in reading Scripture. “But whyyyyy?” (I would try to answer my kid’s questions, but on about the fourth “But whyyyy?” I was pretty tired of explaining whatever it was - sky is blue, grass is green, poop, etc.)
My Post #48 speaks a bit to the “secret things of the Lord”. As I indicated, what we “are told” in the Bible is not secret. The things that “are not told” are the secret things.
“Judging an argument as petty doesn’t automatically equate it with idolatry. This is only your opinion.”
I agree with that and, of course, it is my opinion.
“Idolatry is worshiping something other than God. No one is worshipping something other than God here. Therefore, this is not idolatry.”
Yes And in doing so it takes away from God and puts focus on extraneous things.
Young Earth Creationism too often put the emphasis on such a belief to the level where it obscures the Gospel.
An interesting post was here the other day that serves as an example. It was from ICR, I believe, and was titled Atheist Converts to Creationist, as if Creationism were a religion in it’s own right.
Here is the thread I mentioned.
“Creation Conversion: From Atheist to Creationist”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3255669/posts
Very funny!
Before the 17th century, it was not in question. Afterwards, there began to be developed the idea of long ages of time. It has built from that time to the present .., to be now, today, INTENSE INDOCTRINATION ... which cause many to “fold under the pressure” and dispense with the Word of God and what it says in that section.
Before the 17th century, it was not in question. Afterwards, there began to be developed the idea of long ages of time. It has built from that time to the present .., to be now, today, INTENSE INDOCTRINATION ... which cause many to “fold under the pressure” and dispense with the Word of God and what it says in that section.
I agree completely. The Bible is not a science book and it makes little sense to try to fit it into science or science into it. That isn’t the purpose of the Bible.
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