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The Late Development of the Bishop of Rome
Beggars All ^ | October 08, 2010 | Matthew Schultz

Posted on 02/16/2015 8:49:55 AM PST by RnMomof7

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To: RobbyS; daniel1212
The only Scriptures that the Apostles and disciples had in hand when they began their mission were the same as the Rabbis had access to.

Indeed that is TRUE and they quoted them over 100 times.. and that is because

Luke 24:25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

the New Testament is, as much anything else, an interpretation, interpretations, really of those scriptures in the light of the career of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

The NT was being written by letters by the Apostles during their travels ... 2 Peter 3:15and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Peter recognized that the letters were the new scriptures..inspired by the Holy Spirit

. Furthermore, the surety we have of the inspiration of the canon, is pretty much the same as that of the Jewish canon, which is by tradition.

No not by "tradition" by the assurity of the Holy Spirit

Romans 3:1Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision? 2Great in every respect. First of all, that they were entrusted with the oracles of God. 3What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it?…

The Jews never at any time listed true books of the Canon, nor did the Church.

Actually they had a canon WAY back

Nehemiah:6Then Ezra blessed the LORD the great God. And all the people answered, "Amen, Amen!" while lifting up their hands; then they bowed low and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground. 7Also Jeshua, Bani, Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodiah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, the Levites, explained the law to the people while the people remained in their place. 8They read from the book, from the law of God, translating to give the sense so that they understood the reading.

Luke 24:And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

While there are no other evidences in Holy Writ itself of a collection of the Holy Writings, there are some outside of it, which, in part, may now be mentioned in chronological order. The author of the apocryphal book Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) was a contemporary of the high priest Simon—either the first or the second of that name—who lived at the beginning or at the end of the third century B.C. He knew the Law and Prophets in their present form and sequence; for he glorifies (ch. xliv.-xlix.) the great men of antiquity in the order in which they successively follow in Holy Writ. He not only knew the name ("The Twelve Prophets"), but cites Malachi iii. 23, and is acquainted with by far the greatest part of the Hagiographa, as is certain from the Hebrew original of his writings recently discovered.
www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3259-bible-canon"

To say there was NO canon is to say the Son of God did not know what scriptures were true..as He taught in the Temple or when He led the disciples through them on that walk..

61 posted on 02/17/2015 4:38:48 PM PST by RnMomof7
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Now you are saying that the Oral teaching were scripture? What Our Lord himself taught was the true message of the The Jewish Scriptures , but he wrote nothing himself , not can we say he dictated it. How many of the authors of the New Testament were with him when he taught? We can say that the Holy Spirit breathed truth into them, but especially in the case of Paul, the only scholar among them, as far as we known, all have like Ezechiel eaten the scrolls, as it seems Our Lord had done also.


62 posted on 02/17/2015 9:36:09 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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