Posted on 05/06/2015 10:17:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Jimmy King, a Dallas Theological Seminary graduate who now serves as senior pastor of Proclamation Church in Orlando, accused the school said to be one of the top 20 seminaries in the U.S. of not providing him and other black graduates with enough support in finding employment, and further asserted that he was once told, "we've never placed a black graduate to a white church."
King, who graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary in 2006 with a master of theology in pastoral ministry and leadership degree, according to his church's website, revealed during The Reconciled Church: Healing the Racial Divide Summit at the Orange County Convention Center last Wednesday that when he went to get help from the school's placement office in his final year they gave him the surprising news.
"In the last year, I went to the placement office, I said 'I'm ready to be placed.' They said, 'we've never placed a black graduate to a white church,'" King recalled before a panel of church leaders, including reconciled church founders Bishop T.D. Jakes, Bishop Harry Jackson, and televangelist and pastor James Robison.
"I go back to my class that they have for senior members. They have a panel of pastors from all over Dallas, Texas, all white pastors with the elders' board. I left that placement office really angry and upset. So when I went to that class with the panel sitting there when they asked do you have any questions, I said 'why don't you hire black graduates?' You could hear a pin drop. I still haven't gotten an answer," he said.
"So when I see the word reconciled church, it burns in my heart because we're not reconciled," King continued. "I can't go preach in a white church.
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What is a "white" church? There is no such thing unless you are talking about the paint on the outside of the building.
How about white pastors to black churches? It’s probably because white pastors can’t dance, scream and sweat good enough to satisfy their flocks.
Church has enough problems without becoming a battlefield for racial quotas and litmus testings. Send the sort of pastor who will easily fit in. If this is a congregation that has made it known that they wish to try someone of a different background, then send such a graduate to them.
If too many parishioners are not comfortable with the graduate theologian, most will simply stop coming to that church. Then everybody loses.
I believe he is referring to a church where a HUGE MAJORITY of members are Caucasian.
Dallas Theological Seminary doesn’t place pastors in churches, any more than a state university places employees in management positions of private corporations.
Since when is it the school’s responsibility to find you a job? I don’t think the school is the problem here, if there even is a problem.
The cream rises to the top. Perhaps this graduate should check out Pastor Voddie Baucham’s congregation at Grace Baptist Church - many many caucasian members. Whether preaching an exegetical sermon on the book of Exodus or giving a lecture on Christian philosophy and apologetics Pastor Baucham is aboslutely brilliant and one of the top convention speakers in the country among evangelicals of all races and colors. I listen to virtually everything he releases on Sermonaudio.com. Oh yeah, I forget to mention, Voddie is an African-American.
Well said and spot on!
Shaking my head, lots of questions...
If you’re called to ministry - does it matter whether you are preaching God’s word on a street corner or a 20,000 seat auditorium?
Is his school really responsible for placing him in a church? Shouldn’t he be praying for guidance on where to serve?
Has he actually applied and interviewed to serve in a mostly caucasian church?
Is he just stirring the racial pot? And if so, how does he reconcile that to his call to serve?
No doubt and his attitude is like those who preach the heresy of "social justice", a key component of communism.
We know on average there is a 90% chance that any black person either votes Democrat or agrees with them. Right off the bat let me say...yes this is so unfair to the millions of legitimate Black Christians that have left the plantation and the Black Churches.
I would want nothing to do with a paster that condoned the behaviour of the black Church. Sure we could have them sent to real Christian Churches that had all skin Tones in order to witness to them, but we are talking about people that are going to be in leadership positions, that`s no good.
I will admit openly this is terrible...I see a Black man/woman saying they love Jesus, I can not take them seriously until I can find out if they vote Liberal/Democrat or not. If they vote Liberal/Democrat or support the ideals of abortion gay marriage etc, I just cant take them seriously
How could a person that Loves Jesus approve of a party that celebrates abortion and the removal of God/Christ from the classroom/public square etc.
Voting liberal/Democrat means you are giving your OK to all these evils, including everything above+ approving of children being taught about homosexuality/trans gender stuff etc etc etc
I hear a Black athlete say they love Jesus, and I learn they support Obama and the all Black anti Christian Church.
So called Gospel music awards, all these Black singers hijacking the word Gospel for their own purpose. Real Christian singers are not out there getting awards etc.
I just cant get passed the fact that most of them havent a kind word for Sarah Palin or Christian Right, Social Conservatives etc, and yes they are embracing the Murder of God`s unborn children.
Same deal for liberal Catholics and Liberal Protestants etc
Not only do they refuse to vote Republican/Conservative.. they wont even stand up as a voting group and say hey Democrat party...we dont want Republicans hijacking Christian values, you can not count on our vote unless you stop hating on Jesus, but they do not even care enough to do that, because they just do not give a darn
If that dies not condemn them, I do not know what does. I save the condemning for God, but I should have nothing to do with them as long as they embrace anti Christian values.
This is not unbelievers we are talking about, different story, these are people that claim to Love Jesus, throw their hands in the air, read the Bible (selectively) and then go out and vote for pure evil, murder and utter sin.
BTW God Be Merciful to me a Sinner
Sounds great, but I would have to know if he supports the Democrat Party.
"I go back to my class that they have for senior members. They have a panel of pastors from all over Dallas, Texas, all white pastors with the elders' board. I left that placement office really angry and upset. So when I went to that class with the panel sitting there when they asked do you have any questions, I said 'why don't you hire black graduates?' You could hear a pin drop. I still haven't gotten an answer," he said.
"So when I see the word reconciled church, it burns in my heart because we're not reconciled," King continued. "I can't go preach in a white church.
I'm not sure his skin color is the real issue here. According to his biography at his new church's website, he graduated from DTS in 2008 and immediately went to pastor First Baptist Church in Union NJ, a pastorate which only lasted two years. The leadership mix at his old church skews Hispanic.
He is now the senior pastor of a new church in Florida, which meets in a middle school. The associate pastor is also a DTS graduate (2014), and is also black. Compare his old church's statement of beliefs with this content-free one at his current church:
Jesus left his disciples on this earth not to be passive in their Christian life but to be actively making disciples. We believe God has saved us for the particular task of being his representatives in a foreign world. We function as ambassadors who desire to reproduce ourselves.As ambassadors of Christ, we do not casually live out our mission but fulfill it with purpose and intentionality. Because of the grace shown to us, we are emphatic in announcing to the world the message we have received from our Lord. We deliver this message through the presentation of our words and the display of our lives.
The message we deliver as ambassadors is none other than the good news that God has reconciled the world to himself through Jesus Christ and him alone. The object of our faith is Jesus Christ. As a result of our interaction with those who are far from God, our desire is that they walk away convicted by the Holy Spirit to love God because of the grace shown in Jesus Christ.
God has given each ambassador a mission field in which to work. Our families, our jobs, our social activities, even our weekly trip to the grocery store. These are all fields ripe for harvest and areas in which we may let our light shine before others, so that they may see our good works and glorify our Father in heaven.
Jimmy Swaggert could sweat with the best of them!
Peter Marshal was given a handful of choices by the school he went to on graduation. The head guy said perhaps there is someone you would like to talk this over with, Peter said there certainly is...meaning God/Christ
Why does the color of a building make a difference?
Are their any Black churches left that would take a graduate from DTS? Haven't they all moved on to post-orthodox "social justice" teaching?
At any rate, why don't these conservative seminaries send some traditional hillbilly Fundamentalist to some Black churches? Might get them back on track.
Fundamentalist white ministers can dance, scream, and sweat with the best of them. They just don't dance, scream, and sweat Marxism.
Gee. I didn’t realize that the Dallas Theological Seminary had the authority to dictate the pastors for churches across America.
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