Posted on 05/17/2015 9:17:19 PM PDT by Cronos
After Tsarnaev’s conviction, his mother posted that he was “the best of the best.”
“Reformation” of Mohammedanism will attain the same success rate as Alchemy.
I suppose he makes some good points, but while he accuses others of oversimplifying he does the same thing.
First off the Reformation was about more than just Martin Luther, and secondly when people call for a “reformation” in Islam I think they are using the word in its own pure sense, not really referencing the Christian Reformation of centuries ago.
But at least he seems to acknowledge that things can’t go on as they are.
And, quite frankly, I don’t care how religious you want to be, or what religion you are. If you want to wear a burkha, I may think that is silly but I don’t really care. But when you start to kill people and blow stuff up, then I have a big problem with you and your religion.
“No one seems to be taking them seriously. That is working quite well for them.”
Very well said. And I agree with you. And I keep thinking that this or that horror will be what wakes people up.
But nothing seems to really do it.
And then there’s the spectacle we’ve been treated to this weekend after the jury in Boston gave the death sentence to that little pig Tsarnaev (I’m sure I speed that wrong, but I can’t be bothered to look it up) - of the MSM wringing their hands over it and talking about how everyone up there feels bad about it.
Which a couple of Freepers here have said is just not true. And my kid who knows some pretty liberal people up there said is just not true.
I dread to think what it will take to make people realize we are in a fight to the death, maybe not with “all of Islam” but with a very large portion of Islam. I don’t think we went around in WWII saying: gee not EVERY German is a Nazi, we should give them the benefit of the doubt.
I cannot apply that same test the albeit relatively enlightened Poland- Lithuanian Commonwealth.
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Christianity could go through a reformation because the Bible was not in the language of the people who followed it and only a few could read it and control that information. Reformation came about when the people could read God's word for themselves and question how they were being led for themselves.
Islam needs an eradication.
The Reformation did not alter fundamental doctrine - the divinity of Jesus or His teachings, love your neighbor.
It is ignorant to claim a “moslem reformation” is necessary, it’s fundamental doctrine is the problem - kill your neighbor. What is needed is abolishment.
Islam doesn’t need reformation. It needs eradication.
“I dread to think what it will take to make people realize we are in a fight to the death, maybe not with all of Islam but with a very large portion of Islam. I dont think we went around in WWII saying: gee not EVERY German is a Nazi, we should give them the benefit of the doubt.”
Exactly. It’s distressing to think it’s going to have to go that far for the Sleeple to wake up. But it sure looks that way.
Reformation.
I think the Sufi came first. I’m not knowledgeable about the Turkish mystics beyond their religious “dancing”. My interest in India lead to what I know about the Sufi and the blending of Islam with Hindu philosophy (until they got “slapped down” by the Sunni).
Not offended by the Luther criticism.. In fact, I came to terms with the Replacement theology by rejecting it. My DH and I did a study on this together and I was shocked to find the Reformation’s role in destroying European Jewish lives and property. I was equally shocked to find and hear that replacement theology is alive and well today. Some folks just say (on this forum, no less) you don’t really need the Old Testament, you can just skip that part of your Bible. Anyway, safe to say, the New Testament doesn’t teach that either.
Islam doesn’t need a reformation, it is happy to rape, enslave, murder, destroy and steal from whomever it deems “the enemy” and those tenants aren’t going anywhere.
It needs to be saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ.
We don’t need a bunch of religious fanatics repeating the cleansing of the Reformation.. we need a bunch of religious fanatics praying and reaching.
Luther was no anti-semite in the sense that he hated jews because of their race. He wrote nasty things against people of the jewish religion, but he wrote nasty things against Catholics, Zwingli etc. -- those who didn't like what he said :) -- but he would have been appalled by the Nazis.
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