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In Vain Do They Worship Me
White Horse Inn ^ | April 13, 2014 | Timothy F. Kauffman

Posted on 06/23/2015 10:06:16 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: RnMomof7

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121 posted on 06/23/2015 5:06:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

While Jesus is in Heaven with His Father, who uses all signs and lying wonders? What is it that Jesus The Christ puts a stop to when He returns in ‘the Second Coming’?


122 posted on 06/23/2015 5:14:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Rashputin

I haven’t heard anyone, other than you, talk about throwing out James. In fact, if you study James and Paul in context you will see they are not arguing against each other....hence they both cite Abraham as an example of faith and works.


123 posted on 06/23/2015 5:17:16 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Rashputin

Referring to your tagline, 1Thess 4:13-17, John 14:1-3; 1Cor 15:51-53, Rev 20 ... you might want to check your assumptions.


124 posted on 06/23/2015 5:17:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t know I’m not catholic


125 posted on 06/23/2015 5:25:39 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: RnMomof7

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126 posted on 06/23/2015 5:27:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: RnMomof7

Not sure what you are getting at Christ fulfills the Passover but they are 2 different things, one a mere shadow of the other. If the Jewish passover could really save there would have been no need for Christ

I don’t know why it is so difficult to believe Christ can be truly present in His Supper, particuoarly leaving out all he other man added stuff like worshipping the elements and the idea that there is a resacrifice of Christ every time communion is offered

I am not a Greek scholar but I understand from those that are that there is a special emphasis on the “is” in the words of institution Also if communion is a strictly symbolic act why in the book of Acts do we find some early believers were struck dead for misusing the sacrement?

I don’t get heartburn over whether others believe Christ is really present as He says I don’t think it is a salvation issue (other than the blasphemous add ons in the Catholic mass), but I do think there is blessing to be missed out on if one doesn’t believe what Christ says about His Supper and there are many Protestants that believe as I do


127 posted on 06/23/2015 5:35:27 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: RnMomof7

We are saved by the Blood of Christ painted on the doorframe of our heart But if Christ chooses to also come to us in His Supper for nourishment of our spiritual life once we are saved cannot He do so? God is not against physical presence, He created the physical world as well He above all knows we are physical beings in need of His physical touch again, I don’t condemn you for what u believe about Christs Supper. The most important thing is that it is celebrated reverently He said “this do” we are commanded to celebrate His meal for us and we should do so regularly


128 posted on 06/23/2015 5:41:29 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Communion is symbolic in the flesh and spiritual in the belief. Asserting that the literal body and blood are ingested in the communion focuses on the carnal. Many times in the Bible we hear Jesus using a carnal ‘inference’ to illustrate a spiritual reality. A quick search of His use of ‘verily verily’ can help. The followers that turn away after His reference to eating His flesh and drinking His blood some assume were turning away because they would not countenance cannibalism. In that they were partially right. Sadly, they did not make the transfer to the metaphorical inference used to illustrate a spiritual reality. Taking it back to just the carnal application and thereby violating a command of God to ALL THEIR GENERATIONS, the sacred is made sacrilege. Truly, doing the communion in Remembrance of His Crucifixion and death for us, we bring the physical act of ingesting bread to the spiritual reality of taking His Life into us. Reading the scene in Luke, a very different set of conclusion from cannibalizing emerges.


129 posted on 06/23/2015 5:48:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: RnMomof7

Keep up the good work mom.


130 posted on 06/23/2015 5:51:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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To: Mom MD
Jesus said that where two or more are gathered in His name, there is He in the midst of them. You and I have no doubt witnesses what this can cause to come to pass in His name, the blessings, healings, answers to sincere prayers. But to presume Jesus would be in our midst to have us violate the commandment of God TO ALL THEIR GENERATIONS implicates that god of that moment to be of a duplicitous mind. God is not double-minded.

Since God knows the end from the beginning, He need not EVER violate any commandment He issues FOR ALL THEIR GENERATIONS. He simple makes no commandments that He will eventually violate or contradict in the future.

131 posted on 06/23/2015 5:55:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: caww
Scroll on by then... let the Word of God do what it’s intended to do against false teachings and teachers....which it’s been doing regarding catholicism for centuries in order to being out those who would come out from the bondage they are in.

How many converts do these threads make?

132 posted on 06/23/2015 6:01:18 PM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: Lonely Bull

I would continue it for even one. But there are more than that.


133 posted on 06/23/2015 6:02:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: RnMomof7

We all will answer for our own words. Good luck.


134 posted on 06/23/2015 6:03:02 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

What kind of response is that? No one is questioning His ability, FRiend. We are questioning Romanists understanding of God’s Word.

And do you think making fun of my FReeper name is a substitute for biblical exegesis? Also, since you are a FReeper, presumably you support the 2nd Amendment. If yes, why make fun of a firearms related screen name? If you don’t fully support the 2nd Amendment, I wouldn’t admit that here.


135 posted on 06/23/2015 6:11:44 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Lonely Bull
How many converts do these threads make?

We don't know. But the task of the Christian is not to keep a tally of how many lives they have somehow impacted for the Kingdom. It is to spread the Word.

136 posted on 06/23/2015 6:12:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Lonely Bull

Are you counting?

It’s not about converts, though we know that has occurred as a ‘result’ of these threads. It’s about showing the truth, dispelling lies, and deception.


137 posted on 06/23/2015 6:25:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: ealgeone; metmom; RnMomof7; knarf
So you don't know until Judgment Day if you're in or out??

That sir, is precisely why I am no longer a catholic. I didn't feel too good about waiting till I croaked to see if I was in or out. I thought, what if I lead a good life and still not make it. 🔥 I had hoped I was good enough to at least make it to purgatory, but deep inside I knew I could not even qualify for purgatory. 🙀 If you think about it, that is pretty sick, just hoping for purgatory, not even hoping for Heaven. Once I had true faith, as opposed to pseudo faith, the false issues of salvation gradually worked themselves out, but it took a few months. 😊

138 posted on 06/23/2015 6:33:28 PM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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To: MHGinTN

God also clearly sets aside one covenant with His people for another. He clearly states that we have a new covenant in Christ I don’t know why you take an obscure part of levitical dietary law which was clearly rescinded in the NT to try to prove God can’t do what He says We no longer live under levitical law it has served its purpose are you a Jehovah’s Witness? You speak like one


139 posted on 06/23/2015 6:34:58 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: MHGinTN
Ya can lead a catholic to truth but ya can’t make him eat.

LOL, I wondered when you were going to say that. 😂

140 posted on 06/23/2015 6:42:15 PM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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