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Orthodox Christians Must Now Learn To Live as Exiles in Our Own Country
Time Magazine ^ | June 26, 2015 | Rod Dreher, editor, The American Conservative

Posted on 06/27/2015 5:18:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Voting Republican and other failed culture war strategies are not going to save us now.

No, the sky is not falling — not yet, anyway — but with the Supreme Court ruling constitutionalizing same-sex marriage, the ground under our feet has shifted tectonically.

It is hard to overstate the significance of the Obergefell decision — and the seriousness of the challenges it presents to orthodox Christians and other social conservatives. Voting Republican and other failed culture war strategies are not going to save us now.

Discerning the meaning of the present moment requires sobriety, precisely because its radicalism requires of conservatives a realistic sense of how weak our position is in post-Christian America...

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christians; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; scotus; ssm; supremecourt
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1 posted on 06/27/2015 5:18:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John 15:19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.


2 posted on 06/27/2015 5:25:48 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Beginning to wonder if decent people of conscience can take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution as it now stands interpreted. Rome too became hedonistic and decadent. The growing minority of Christians despite persecution, cajoling and finally begging by hard pressed emperors, refused to serve in the Roman army or participate in civic affairs. Rome eventually radically transformed.


3 posted on 06/27/2015 5:27:28 PM PDT by allendale
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this in reference to Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox...?


4 posted on 06/27/2015 5:27:42 PM PDT by Holdek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been living like an exile ever since I have been a Christian. It’s just gotten more hostile across all areas of life.


5 posted on 06/27/2015 5:28:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As citizens we have a duty to disregard unconstitutional laws. Whatever form that takes for us. We do it because we stand for the constitution when the government will not.


6 posted on 06/27/2015 5:30:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t intend to live as an exile in my own country.


7 posted on 06/27/2015 5:30:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: allendale

Beginning to wonder if decent people of conscience can take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution as it now stands interpreted. Rome too became hedonistic and decadent. The growing minority of Christians despite persecution, cajoling and finally begging by hard pressed emperors, refused to serve in the Roman army or participate in civic affairs. Rome eventually radically transformed.
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I think Dreher is missing something. That something is secession. The South, Texas, Midwest and mountain West are majority conservative bible believing Christians who’d love nothing better to break away from DC and the decadent coastal elites. Once we are free of all that, we can write our own founding documents and enshrine Christianity into law.


8 posted on 06/27/2015 5:31:26 PM PDT by Bluewater2015 (There are no coincidences)
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To: Secret Agent Man

My straight niece is getting married in August so I’m going to a #RealWedding.


9 posted on 06/27/2015 5:31:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Holdek
Is this in reference to Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox...?

Don't forget Ukrainian Orthodox...

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10 posted on 06/27/2015 5:31:59 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Church in Exile lives on and looks to Jesus for strength day by day. We are strangers and pilgrims here. Heaven is our home. While we are here, we are to take care of each other and avoid being partners to the unbelievers, who have no hope beyond their very short existence here and who misuse their lives accordingly.
“Do not be yoked with the evildoers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?” (2 Corinthians 6:14)


11 posted on 06/27/2015 5:32:59 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: cripplecreek

Bravo.


12 posted on 06/27/2015 5:34:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Bluewater2015
Its really an urban vs rural thing. Nothing I would love more than to cut the cities off for about a year or until they cry uncle.


13 posted on 06/27/2015 5:36:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That makes more than a few of us.........


14 posted on 06/27/2015 5:37:02 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson; RedMDer; trisham; The Cajun; musicman; CatherineofAragon; wardaddy; ..
Next, they're going for a NATIONAL HOLIDAY!


When several historic events happen on the exact same day, it’s a sign:
June 26 should be a national holiday.

On Friday the Supreme Court ruled that gay Americans had the right to marry in every state in the country. On the exact same date two years ago, the same court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, allowing same-sex couples to access federal benefits. And when the Supreme Court ruled that same-sex sexual activity should be legal in every state in the Lawrence vs Texas ruling in 2003, it did so on … June 26. It’s a coincidence, but also much more than that."...

15 posted on 06/27/2015 5:37:12 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless)
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To: RnMomof7

Blessed are you, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.


16 posted on 06/27/2015 5:37:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: cripplecreek

homosexual behavior will be treated the same as other sex fringe groups.

There is no “acceptance” as normal for adultery, swinging, sadism, or masochism either.


17 posted on 06/27/2015 5:38:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cripplecreek

Shouldn’t that be “real marriage?”


18 posted on 06/27/2015 5:38:05 PM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To coin a word perhaps it is time for the orthodox to become orthosotor.

I.e. to take the grace and work of the Savior seriously. It was never a do it yourself project, but men in their pride constantly make it one.

It is a quest of opening up to the Lord and then permitting Him to have His way.

If Christians are mumbling in a room about what’s right that is one thing. If they are letting it live gloriously in their own lives, that is quite another.


19 posted on 06/27/2015 5:39:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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this is time magazine.

A NYC leftwing dying rag.


20 posted on 06/27/2015 5:39:08 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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