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The Gospel for Roman Catholics
Southern Baptist Midwestern Seminary For The Church ^ | June 14, 2015 | A.D. Robles

Posted on 07/01/2015 7:13:05 AM PDT by RnMomof7

Recently there has been a surge in prominent Evangelicals calling for unity with Roman Catholicism. In one sense there seems to be strong foundational similarities that would justify these calls to unity. Catholics are baptized in the name of the Trinity. God’s revealed word in the Bible -- setting aside their addition of the Apocryphal books, for argument’s sake -- is foundational to their worldview. Catholics love Christ and believe that he died on the cross and rose again to provide grace for sinners.

Obviously there are theological differences associated with the specific teachings of each one of these perceived similarities, and I do not want to minimize the importance of these differences. But for argument‘s sake, at least on the surface, there is some common ground.

There is also a strong agreement in ethical standards. Both Roman Catholics and Evangelicals ground morality on God’s holy nature as revealed in the law of God. This means that on the hot button moral issues of the day; the murder of the unborn, human sexuality, the sanctity of marriage there is solidarity between Roman Catholic and Evangelical ethics because they are coming from the same source.  Again, this seems to justify a call to some sense of unity.

Are these good enough reasons to publically stump for visible unity with Roman Catholics? That question is beyond the scope of this post. But there is a more fundamental question that must be answered first. That question serves as the dividing line between followers of Christ and the world, which separates biblical Christianity from every other worldview; does Rome possess and preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

The author of the book of Hebrews in chapter 10 contrasts the gospel with that which is but a shadow of the gospel.  He argues:

"And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified." -- Heb 10:11–14

The argument being presented here makes it clear that Christ’s singular sacrifice, his death on the cross, perfects those for whom it is made for. This is the gospel. It is contrasted with the shadow of the gospel in which sacrifices were repeatedly made year after year because though they symbolized the atoning and perfecting sacrifice of Christ, they never themselves perfected those for whom they were made. The gospel of Jesus Christ perfects and any other religious strategies cannot.

This principle is directly applicable to the question of Roman Catholicism and the gospel of God. Roman Catholic worship centers on the mass. The mass is a series of liturgical practices that culminates in the Eucharist which according to paragraph 1068 of the Catholic of the Catholic Church (hereafter CCC) is a divine sacrifice. Paragraph 1367 of CCC calls the Eucharist a “truly propitiatory” sacrifice. This sacrifice is performed repeatedly in the life of a Catholic.

The reason the Eucharist is performed repeatedly is because even though it is claimed to be a propitiatory sacrifice that can make reparation for sins (CCC, 1414), it is a sacrifice that never perfects anyone. According to the Catholic message grace is something that you get from God by performing certain acts.  First, God gives you the grace for faith in Jesus (CCC, 2000).  Second, when you are baptized God graciously erases the sin of Adam from your record (CCC 1257). From that point on you get more grace by doing things like participating in the sacraments, including the Eucharist. The problem is that when you commit sins, you lose some of the grace you have gained and now need more lest your grace be found wanting at final judgment. This forces the Catholic into a position where they need to return day after day, week after week, and year after year to a priest who serves to repeatedly re-present the same sacrifice which never perfects those for whom it is made, since it only offers grace to cover some sin.

This is not the gospel.

Roman Catholics need the gospel for the same reason we all need it. We are all sinners with such a messed up and low view of how holy holiness really is that we think somehow through our own efforts we can attain it. If we just had enough time and willpower we could somehow have our good deeds outweigh our bad, and this will please God just enough for me to be acceptable to him.  This is a satanic lie.  A satanic lie that to some degree or another we have all bought into at some point in our life. 

But the truth is glorious. God is good and God is holy. He is more good and more holy than we can possibly imagine. God is so good and so holy that anything less than absolute perfection is unacceptable in his presence. It is because of God’s awesome goodness and awesome holiness that in his wisdom he has offered us grace, through faith in Christ. A good and holy sacrifice that absolutely without question completely perfects everyone for whom it is made.


TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: doctrine; globalwarminghoax; gospel; popefrancis; romancatholicism; salvation
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To: CynicalBear
Silly little bear, we no longer use the DRB we use the NAS. I love how anti-Catholics ALWAYS make the Catholics look so smart and reasonable.

Please keep tilting at windmills.

BTW that is a reference to Miguel Cervantes classic Don Quixote de La Mancha.

1,161 posted on 07/10/2015 11:41:51 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
>>BTW You need to go to the NAS that is the Catholic Church’s accepted translation.<<

From Catholic Online

"The doctrine of the Catholic Church concerning the Holy Ghost forms an integral part of her teaching on the mystery of the Holy Trinity"

"The Holy Ghost is the Third Person of the Blessed Trinity."

1,162 posted on 07/10/2015 11:58:52 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga
>>Silly little bear, we no longer use the DRB we use the NAS.<<

Doesn't matter. The meaning of the Hebrew and Greek words still stand. And the Catholic Church still uses Holy Ghost too.

1,163 posted on 07/10/2015 12:01:04 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
From Catholic Online

Linky

1,164 posted on 07/10/2015 12:19:22 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga
>>Linky<<

http://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=5833

And if that's not good enough.

"The doctrine of the Catholic Church concerning the Holy Ghost forms an integral part of her teaching on the mystery of the Holy Trinity"

1,165 posted on 07/10/2015 12:27:53 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: rwa265
Where did you get the idea that the earlier versions were discarded?

Right here...

As such, it is no surprise to me Protestantism has discarded the Authorized Version (KJV) of the scriptures.

1,166 posted on 07/10/2015 12:36:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear
EPIC FAIL

the first link goes to Jesus Christ and the second is from the 1910 Edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia

1,167 posted on 07/10/2015 12:37:40 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

And, in the interest of FAIRNESS...

https://www.google.com/search?q=errors+in+vulgate+translation&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475&gws_rd=ssl


1,168 posted on 07/10/2015 12:38:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
I don't mind telling you that as a former anti-Catholic protestant I am over joyed to see my decision justified by so many of my former fellow protestants.

It don't take much for you to get your jollies these days!

1,169 posted on 07/10/2015 12:39:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
You need to go to the NAS that is the Catholic Church’s accepted translation.

THE??

None of the others are any good any more?

HMMMmmm...

1,170 posted on 07/10/2015 12:40:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

...we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls...


1,171 posted on 07/10/2015 12:40:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
Silly little bear, we no longer use the DRB we use the NAS.

Yeah; we can see WHY!!

It's full of errors; too!

Nyah - nayh!

1,172 posted on 07/10/2015 12:41:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

If Salt Lake wasn’t so stingy they could be using the Joe Smith Authorized English translation of the English King James Bible! Go figure


1,173 posted on 07/10/2015 12:57:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Elsie

As such, it is no surprise to me Protestantism has discarded the Authorized Version (KJV) of the scriptures.


It’s a surprise to me. My sister uses the KJV at her Methodist church and my daughter uses it at her Christian Church. I guess they didn’t get the memo.


1,174 posted on 07/10/2015 12:58:13 PM PDT by rwa265 (Do whatever He tells you, just do it.)
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To: verga
>>and the second is from the 1910 Edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia<<

And what addition of the KJV were you referencing? Give it up verga.

1,175 posted on 07/10/2015 1:05:41 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
And what addition of the KJV were you referencing? Give it up verga.

The 1611 AUTHORIZED version which is the accepted version by many fundamentalist evangelical denominations. I really hope that you were already aware of this. And I also hope that you realize it was AUTHORIZED by a Sodomite that was into witchcraft. Check the history of Shakespeare's Macbeth King Jimmy is the reason the three witches were put into it.

1,176 posted on 07/10/2015 1:49:03 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

The Hebrew and Greek word meanings still stand.


1,177 posted on 07/10/2015 1:50:51 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Get a real dictionary, because you are arguing with fellow protestants. They are the ones citing all these errors in both the KJV and the NIV. I am just presenting the things they say and write.


1,178 posted on 07/10/2015 2:25:20 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: verga

I’m not Protestant and I expose errors from any who present them.


1,179 posted on 07/10/2015 2:33:46 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Catholic, protestant, Jewish, pagan, atheist, agnostic.
Those are the only choices.


1,180 posted on 07/10/2015 2:51:55 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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