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Pope Francis: ‘I’ll read critiques of my economic ideas ahead of US trip’
Catholic Herald ^ | July 13, 2015 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 07/14/2015 12:59:07 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Between the sex abuse scandals, absurd liberal positions taken by church officials and now the Pope’s Maxist rantings, I am glad I left the Church years ago.


21 posted on 07/14/2015 2:49:05 PM PDT by The Great RJ (“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher)
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Pope Francis: ‘I’ll read critiques of my Marx's economic ideas ahead of US trip’

There was a small typo. I fixed it!
22 posted on 07/14/2015 2:55:09 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: The Great RJ

Good idea! If you don’t mind my intrusion, you should find a small non-denomination Christian Church that reads the Bible, or find a Bible Study. Jesus warned us to stay in fellowship to keep oil in our lamps...especially as we see THE DAY approaching (Hebrews 10:25).


23 posted on 07/14/2015 3:00:10 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: NYer

This proves even Popes can be mistaken. They are not protected from error in matters other than faith snd morals an then not in all statements.
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But he is no worse than almost all of those on the left, right, and middle.

What a well and sparsly regulated capitalism has done is produce a vigorous middle class. Without a strong middle class, the poor cannot rise above poverty. There is no where to go. Maybe from poor to less poor. But rarely can the poor rise to upperclass wealth.

Thank you modern day Democrats,Republicans, Libertarians,Marxistse etc and etc.


24 posted on 07/14/2015 3:05:26 PM PDT by amihow
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“not had time to study them well” ... He’s had many decades to study economics and hasn’t.

You seem to have misunderstood the comment. He was addressing a question by someone regarding comments made recently in the US.

“I have heard that some criticisms were made in the United States

When the pope addresses a topic, it is on a global level. We, as Americans, then interpret them locally, in terms of our culture. This often results in a misinterpretation. For example, in addressing abuse of the environment, it is necessary to contrast the situation of starving christians in Syria with those western communities where there is a great waste of food. Again, the pope speaks globally, not locally.

25 posted on 07/14/2015 3:26:02 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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Jorge just may find that Catholic Americans do not appreciate his BS left wing preaching. I would not walk even 5 feet to see this idiot. My message to Jorge is, “Stay in your Vatican hotel room, shut your pie hole and read the Bible.”


26 posted on 07/14/2015 3:37:36 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: NYer
The crucifix, the Pope said, obviously fits into the category of "protest art," which some people may find offensive, although he said he did not. “I’m talking it home with me,” Pope Francis said.




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"Thus the USSR became the first state to have, as an ideological objective, the elimination of religion and its replacement with universal atheism. The communist regime confiscated religious property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in schools. The confiscation of religious assets was often based on accusations of illegal accumulation of wealth."
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"The vast majority of people in the Russian empire were, at the time of the revolution, religious believers, whereas the communists aimed to break the power of all religious institutions and eventually replace religious belief with atheism. "Science" was counterposed to "religious superstition" in the media and in academic writing. The main religions of pre-revolutionary Russia persisted throughout the entire Soviet period, but they were only tolerated within certain limits. Generally, this meant that believers were free to worship in private and in their respective religious buildings (churches, mosques, etc.), but public displays of religion outside of such designated areas were prohibited. In addition, religious institutions were not allowed to express their views in any type of mass media, and many religious buildings were demolished or used for other purposes."
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"Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century with an estimated death toll numbering between 85 and 100 million."
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27 posted on 07/14/2015 3:42:51 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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Asked why he talks so much about the rich and the poor and so rarely about middle-class people who work and pay taxes, Pope Francis thanked the journalist for pointing out his omission and said, “I do need to delve further into this magisterium."

This magisterium? Wut?

28 posted on 07/14/2015 3:55:46 PM PDT by piusv
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I am Catholic. I believe in the Catholic religion.

This man should be ignored.


29 posted on 07/14/2015 4:07:54 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: BlatherNaut; livius

Not to forget is his mentioning of handling or eating human excrement.


30 posted on 07/14/2015 4:08:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Not to forget is his mentioning of handling or eating human excrement.

Such uncouth public expression emanating from a spiritual leader.

31 posted on 07/14/2015 5:40:14 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Seems to me he needs to read several Papal Encyclicals before he bothers with reading what people have to say about his recent remarks.


32 posted on 07/14/2015 8:25:49 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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Preferably those pre-Vatican II since it appears not one pre-Vatican II papal document was referenced in his entire environment encyclical.


33 posted on 07/15/2015 3:12:24 AM PDT by piusv
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Economics is now also on a global level...and has been for a couple centuries. Economics is the same in Greece, Italy, Argentina, US and Mexico. I was not focused on the country. I was focused on the issue.


34 posted on 07/18/2015 8:05:53 AM PDT by spintreebob
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