How to Go to Heaven

CatholicAnswers ^ | May 12, 2015 | Jimmy Akin

[caww]

....”WOW, talk about misinterpreting scripture....that was it!!!!”....

Save us all the drama and instead offer the correct interpretation ‘as you see it’.... That is what debate is about.

I wrote:

The context simply is not what was happening at that moment, but what would happen at Pentecost, when the Apostles would be given that which was required to powerfully proclaim the gospel to all nations, beginning in Jerusalem.

Your interpretation therefore is??????...and please use scripture references as I have cared to use to substantiate my position.

[Mom MD]

Christ had no weakness Righteous anger is not a weakness and God is the only one with authority to punish sin

But before you call what He did unbridled anger all they had was sore backsides and the loss of some merchandise Christ is God incarnate He could have just as easily reduced them to smoking piles of ash.... I would say He exhibited restraint and mercy

[caww]

Yes!! We are on the same page!

[metmom]

Good point.

I never thought of it that way before.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “ if you don’t believe that, why not?” <<

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by reading the scriptures, we know that most of what the corporate catholic church teaches is alien to God.

It is wholly the the ideas of men.

This is not limited to the catholic church, it is rampant in most churches. Men want to do the things that please men.
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[Iscool]

In retrospect I think God may very well have seen that moment as me agreeing with Him that I was a sinner... and no matter how I tried to weigh the scales favorably, and I was doing just that prior to that one verse,...obvious that verse lets no-one off the hook of damnation.

Very salient...As we can see on this thread, some people feel that their sins are minor enough so that they don't fear hell...They have no need of a Savior...Just do some good, some charity and they'll be good to go...

[MHGinTN]

Check your tagline. Scripture says He mad Himself a little lower than the Angels for a time. It also says He was tempted in all ways as we are. Common sense would say He had weaknesses of a mortal nature, but Scripture also testifies that He did not sin and could not sin because His seed (the Godness of Jesus) remained within Him. The astonishing thing one might note right there is that when someone ids born from above, God puts that same seed in them! They have eternal life in them,. indwelling them, raising them up from infancy in the Way that they should go. THAT is the Gospel of Grace, the essence of the New Covenant that by believing on Him we have God-life in us, the Hope of Glory.

[Iscool]

The Laying on of Hands is believed to be the unction of the Holy Spirit for authority. Remember Stephen and others already had the Holy Spirit as a Believer. This was especially for Authority why else they were already christians.

Since they already had the Holy Ghost, it was likely just an acknowledgment that they all agreed...

[terycarl]

Silly Martin Luther, how dare he question the indulgences!!! try reading his 95 theses, and determine which ones you will argue against.

Anyone, any time, can question whatever they desire...however, there is a right way and a wrong way....if he wanted to "reform" the church, he should have done it from within...ask for councils, approach leaders who were in charge...he didn't, instead he went outside the church and decided that he could do it better himself....he couldn't.

Most of the 95 "thesis" were complaints about everyday goings on in the church....were many of them wrong, absolutely, but you don't correct a situation by going outside the walls......When the U.S. revolted against England, that's exactly what they did....they weren't trying to reform England, they were, in effect, revolting and establishing a completely new system .....That's the mistake that Luther made....he revolted.

[Mom MD]

also have you ever prayed over someone while laying hands on them? It is very powerful and moving. While not a common practice I have had the chance to do it on occasion. One of the places was middle school graduation at the school my kids attended. Part of the ceremony was all the kids gathering with their parents in the auditorium. The parents were then told to lay their hands on their children and pray over them out loud. Not a dry eye in the place and an experience I will never forget.

[caww]

...."leaving the church and denying her teachings is a mortal sin".....

That belief needs "proof" that God has determined so.....for as I see it God has never established that leaving institutionalized churches constitute sin of any kind. For THE Church is a Body of believers with Christ as the head...represented throughout the World and in many denominations today..... One is "free" to Worship Him wherever the Gospel message and His Word is preached, and His Spirit oversees.

Least it be overlooked....The seven churches to which the Revelations of Christ speaks were Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamos, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea. Even in that day there were various gatherings of Christians in various locations....all under the headship of Jesus Christ....much as there is today.

[2tipsea]

I choose both - that is the Church, both. Bible and Tradition are not exclusive of one another.

[Iscool]

Jesus never ONCE instructs his apostles or anyone else to write anything.

God instructed numerous people in the OT to write scripture...And Jesus referred to the written word constantly...Jesus told John to write scripture...What Paul wrote was acknowledged by Peter to be God breathed scripture...It's pretty cut and dried...

[metmom]

.was it O.K. for Him to deny these people the opportunity to make a living....to feed their children, perhaps giving their customers whatever benefits they were offering??

Cheating people is an "opportunity to make a living"?

God approves of that?

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “As we can see on this thread, some people feel that their sins are minor enough so that they don't fear hell...They have no need of a Savior...Just do some good, some charity and they'll be good to go.” <<

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But Y’shua said:

” Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”

[Mom MD]

He then went on to say that the will of the Father was to believe in the One He sent.

[2tipsea]

Yes, exactly my point.

[editor-surveyor]

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And in the sense of the people to whom he said it, to believe on him is to completely mimic his actions, in the slightest detail.

[NKP_Vet]

“Confessing in private to a man and having that person pronounce judgement and penance is not biblical, can be very harmful and most definitely not necessary for salvation”.

You been listening to Jimmy Swaggart again?

[RitaOK]

“Sin is sin....” -——

I used to think that, and said it often enough myself, but then someone pointed out to me, in scripture, about the “sin(s) unto death”, or, “mortal” sin. I can’t remember where, though, that scripture on mortal sin is.

That distinction matters.

And just because there were not reams of scripture on an instructional teaching such as this one, does not mean it wasn’t important, but rather it indicates something that was already known and being practiced— already a “given” in the early Church. It was already understood.

The purpose of writing it down, in what became known as the New Testament, was to pass it on. To pass it on to those being added almost daily to the Church and to the newly ordained into the priesthood.