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How to Go to Heaven
CatholicAnswers ^ | May 12, 2015 | Jimmy Akin

Posted on 07/21/2015 4:48:44 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Petronski
Pope Francis is a disgrace to all a pope should be. Thank you for, uh, listening?

Nah, he's doing things a little differently than you might like...TS, he will turn out just fine, and like every other Pope in history, he will be free from error in matters of faith and morals......and that's all that really matters.

His views on the environment, and other temporal matters are of no greater importance than yours or mine.

221 posted on 07/21/2015 8:05:44 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: NKP_Vet

Never did so wouldn’t know what he said. But thanks anyway.


222 posted on 07/21/2015 8:06:11 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: terycarl
You are a Catholic and the church teaches that leaving the church and denying her teachings is a mortal sin....if you don't believe that, why not????

Because Jesus didn't teach that.

I don't care what a church hierarchy claims. Of course I'd expect that they'd say that. They want people to stay in it and what better way than to threaten them with eternal damnation if they disagree?

I see that claim by the church as a power grab. I would whatever denomination made it.

It's a huge red flag and I'd steer clear of any person or denomination that claimed exclusivity in reaching God.

BTW, I'm not a Catholic any more and nobody stating that I am can change that.

I am a new creature in Christ. The old is gone and the new has come. That makes me free. I belong to only Jesus. No one else has a claim on my soul.

223 posted on 07/21/2015 8:06:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: 2tipsea

breaking a man made law is not a sin. Breaking God’s law most definitely is


224 posted on 07/21/2015 8:06:54 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: kosciusko51
And if you look at this thread, there is plenty of hostility on both sides.

I don't see any hostility on the non Catholic side...

225 posted on 07/21/2015 8:07:33 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mom MD

“God is the only one with authority to punish sin”

So I take it you don’t believe in the death penalty or or any type of civil authority? Just a lawless society, where anything goes.


226 posted on 07/21/2015 8:08:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Is eternal life soemthign one can lose then get again, then lose and get again? Is the indwelling Holy Spirit eternal life in the believer, or just a tickle so the believer will strive for eternal life?


227 posted on 07/21/2015 8:09:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Mom MD; Iscool
Jesus never ONCE instructs his apostles or anyone else to write anything.

Guess again.

Revelation 1:9-11 I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation and the kingdom and the patient endurance that are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos on account of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet saying,

“Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.”

Revelation 1:17-19 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying,

“Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades. Write therefore the things that you have seen, those that are and those that are to take place after this.

Revelation 2:1 “To the angel of the church in Ephesus write:

Revelation 2:8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write:

Revelation 2:12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write:

Revelation 2:18 “And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write:

Revelation 3:1 “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write:

Revelation 3:7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:

Revelation 3:14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

228 posted on 07/21/2015 8:10:00 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Proving a total lack of understanding of what he said.

I'm absolutely certain that you are about to provide us with an extremely accurate description of what He actually meant...................waiting...

229 posted on 07/21/2015 8:11:39 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: Iscool

That would be me.


230 posted on 07/21/2015 8:13:06 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Iscool

“I don't see any hostility on the non Catholic side...

No of course not...none at all....not even a smidgen.

Jim didnt see any either I guess.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3313905/posts

231 posted on 07/21/2015 8:13:33 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: metmom

Pardon the intrusion, but to add to your testimony, The Scriptures tell us that the accuser can no longer pull the old ‘but look, she/he broke that commandment right there in the laws’ trick. Why? Because the Mercy Seat is above the ark where the laws are kept. It was upon that Mercy Seat in the Heavenlies that Jesus our Great High Priest spread His sinless, precious blood, cover the laws of sin and death. So when the accuser tries to draw Gods attention to the law to accuse you, God does not see past the Prefect sinless blood of our Savior and Lord, our Great High Priest interceding for s continually in the Holy of Holies.


232 posted on 07/21/2015 8:14:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: NKP_Vet

Men have the authority to punish earthly law breakers with earthly punishments. God is the One who can rightly condemn sinners to hell. Governments cannot. God can also in His grace and mercy provide salvation for those condemned. All sin is sin against God, HE has the absolute right to decree the punishment. Christ was not sinning, as God He was acting well within His rights to punish any sinner at any time.

I actually am a staunch supporter of the death penalty, and of civil authority when it does not exceed its rightful bounds. Keeping order in society is a good thing, but governments are not infallible. The ultimate punishment of sin, and absolute justice are Gods alone.


233 posted on 07/21/2015 8:14:43 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: editor-surveyor
This is not limited to the catholic church, it is rampant in most churches. Men want to do the things that please men.

And that's exactly why they reject the Catholic church and decide on "do it yourself" religions .

234 posted on 07/21/2015 8:19:10 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Shame on you!!! I suspect you are a Catholic trying to make non Catholics look stupid and mean spirited.
235 posted on 07/21/2015 8:19:24 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: metmom

All in Revelation, and all about the vision of John in Revelation.

And never during his earthly life. Never in all of his preaching. Yet, during his earthly life, in repeated discourses to the apostles, he enjoined them to baptize, celebrate the Eucharist, and to forgive sins. All functions still carried out in the Catholic Church, and not carried out in other Christian bodies.


236 posted on 07/21/2015 8:20:04 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: saradippity

By liking what Boogieman posted?


237 posted on 07/21/2015 8:23:17 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Arthur McGowan

When Paul uses phrases like ‘And this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord’ Who is The Word? Is Paul not passing on instructions? And without a single vote by a magesterium or papal see! Just writing/doin’ what The Word told Him to write.


238 posted on 07/21/2015 8:23:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: terycarl

“he will be free from error in matters of faith and morals”

No doubt.

The rest is dross.


239 posted on 07/21/2015 8:25:02 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Arthur McGowan

You didn’t qualify it the first time.

So you were wrong.


240 posted on 07/21/2015 8:27:22 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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