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Cardinal Dolan Plays ‘Trump’ Card on Pre-Born Babies
Lepanto Institute ^ | 8/4/15 | Michael Hichborn

Posted on 08/04/2015 4:07:00 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Resettozero

I do not know enough about the situation in Milwaukee to answer your question.

The reason why I say this is that the abuse cases could have happened from the 60s through today. I don’t know when these cases actually did happen.

I mention this because his two predecessors were:

1. Timothy Dolan (2002 - 2009) (and we all know his attitude toward sodomites now, don’t we?)

2. Rembert Weakland (1977 - 2002) (who, after his retirement, came out of the closet as a sodomite himself...and, in fact, had to pay off a former seminarian for a sexual assault that happened back in the 70s)

The point is that Listecki could have been placed in a no-win situation because of the actions of one or more of his predecessors. He may have his own issues, as well, but I think the former is far more likely.


21 posted on 08/04/2015 4:49:08 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
Sadly he (Dolan) has received the Sacrament of Holy Orders and has been consecrated a bishop. He is a "real" Catholic prelate.

As I posted, Dolan, more or less, seems an average RCC leader -- but you say it's because Dolan isn't "liked" or the RCC is not receiving enough good press for the "real" bishops, the ones you deem "worthy".

Okay. Thanks for the chat.
22 posted on 08/04/2015 4:50:38 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Crazieman

That’s right. The Pope has something to say about everything else, just not this genocidal revelation from Planned Parenthood.


23 posted on 08/04/2015 4:53:23 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: markomalley

Why do you engage with anti-Catholics and post non-Caucus threads? I refuse now to comment about the actual subject of threads that are non-caucus - haven’t we had enough here engaging with people who despise Catholics?


24 posted on 08/04/2015 4:54:22 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: markomalley

I listened to Hugh Hewitt today who interviewed David Daleiden who did these undercover videos, and Daleiden said he has 7 more videos to release.

Words cannot describe the horror I felt when he said that PP let babies be totally born out of the womb because it maximized PP profit. Once out of the womb the doctor killed the baby.

He said that PP was actually murdering live babies and was doing it in a non chemical fashion because otherwise the baby parts were unusable.

He said this was illegal and violated all kinds of federal laws.

Hewitt said he saw the first 2 videos that were so gruesome that he could not watch the rest. Daleiden said the next 7 videos were more gruesome.


25 posted on 08/04/2015 4:55:05 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: miss marmelstein
Why do you engage with anti-Catholics and post non-Caucus threads? I refuse now to comment about the actual subject of threads that are non-caucus - haven’t we had enough here engaging with people who despise Catholics?

Resettozero is neither anti-Catholic nor despises Catholics. You are mistaken about many things.
26 posted on 08/04/2015 5:02:21 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: miss marmelstein
Why do you engage with anti-Catholics…

The other poster was not overtly rude.

…and post non-Caucus threads?

Using the example of this thread, because Dolan's actions affect everybody, not just Catholics.

I don't object to non-Catholics challenging our beliefs, as long as they aren't rude in doing so. I am not quite ready to retreat into a ghetto...yet.

27 posted on 08/04/2015 5:04:10 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Pope F. and Cardinal D. should be getting failing grades from serious Catholics.

Have some Catholics thought about keeping the faith and ignoring their worldly leaders? I don’t think that Catholics need to leave the church at this point, but they have to find a means to remain faithful to Christ without being subjected to the negative & worldly/globalist influences of so much of the leadership.


28 posted on 08/04/2015 5:06:52 PM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: markomalley
The other poster was not overtly rude.

Regrets...that my opinion(s) seemed rude at all.

How goes the RCC goes the general American public's guiding impression of the Christian religion, for right or wrong.
29 posted on 08/04/2015 5:09:24 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: markomalley
The greatest embarrassment since Berardin. Maybe even more of an embarrassment.



Dolan is even worse than Bernadine, and worse than just an embarrassment, plus he's younger than Bernadine was. I think the man is corrupt and a subject of black mail.

I think I read here today that Milwaukee just paid out $21 Million. Yes, I did. Archdiocese settles sexual abuse claims for $21 million

Dolan was thought to be a conservative priest when Pope Benedict XVI appointed him, but once he got to NY he sure changed.
In May 2012, the New York Times revealed that the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, then headed by Dolan, had paid some abusive priests – although already dismissed from their priestly duties – up to $20,000 to leave the priesthood immediately rather than force the church to initiate time-consuming and expensive laicization proceedings against them.[57]


The archdiocese noted that the "unassignable priests" were still receiving full salaries and would continue to do so until they were formally laicized;[57] and that the payouts were a "motivation" so that the priests would not contest being defrocked. The Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests sent a formal protest asking, "In what other occupation, especially one working with families and operating schools and youth programs, is an employee given a cash bonus for raping and sexually assaulting children?"[57] Dolan responded to accusations that he had given "payoffs" to protect accused priests as "false, preposterous, and unjust".[57]



Cardinal Dolan has lost his authority to speak to moral issues, IMO, given he sounds just like a demonic-rat to me.


30 posted on 08/04/2015 5:10:44 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE Support FR - GO MONTHLY - Join CLUB 300 - God bless FR's Donors!)
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To: markomalley

This needs its own thread.

God bless Bishop Paprocki.


31 posted on 08/04/2015 5:13:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

Likewise here. BTT for Bishop Vasa.


32 posted on 08/04/2015 5:14:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

BTTT for Bishop Tobin.


33 posted on 08/04/2015 5:14:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: onyx
Cardinal Dolan has lost his authority to speak to moral issues, IMO, given he sounds just like a demonic-rat to me.

That comment is worthy of a response from a non-Catholic. Why isn't Dolan actively being removed from his position of leadership if the opinion you posted is accurate?

Why hasn't he previously been removed from authority since Dolan had been a large part of the Milwaukee Archdiocese leadership back when and which today the RCC saw the bankruptcy settlement there finalized.

As long as he remains, the general public's perception is that Dolan is in approval by the still higher-ups in the Vatican.
34 posted on 08/04/2015 5:20:17 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: grumpygresh
Have some Catholics thought about keeping the faith and ignoring their worldly leaders?

Thankfully, Catholics have unprecedented access to Church teachings...moreso than ever in history.

Catholics need to ensure they understand what the Church actually teaches so they aren't subject to the whims of a certain shepherd or another.

For example, when Bergoglio rants about income inequality being the root of all social evil, a well-informed Catholic can go back to the teachings of Pope Leo XIII, Pope Pius X, Pope Pius XI, Pope John XXIII, and Pope John Paul II...which say that inequality of income is the natural order of things and is in God's plan (yes, I can get you quotes if you're actually interested)

For example, if a person is called a neo-nazi or a know-nothing by Dolan for the grave sin of opposing the uncontrolled invasion of the USA by illegal aliens, the well-informed Catholic can return to the Catechism, where it clearly makes known that a State has the right to control immigration.

100 years ago, that would be tough. These days, it's child's play to do so.

35 posted on 08/04/2015 5:20:47 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Resettozero
Regrets...that my opinion(s) seemed rude at all.

I didn't personally take it that it was. But since I didn't know the motivations when I initially responded, I categorized it as "overtly"...in case there was a covert agenda (not saying you, personally, would do something like that, but one could ask a seemingly innocent question for the purposes of drawing another into a rhetorical trap).

36 posted on 08/04/2015 5:26:34 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
I didn't personally take it that it was. But since I didn't know the motivations when I initially responded, I categorized it as "overtly"...in case there was a covert agenda (not saying you, personally, would do something like that, but one could ask a seemingly innocent question for the purposes of drawing another into a rhetorical trap)

Chill; you're overthinking things perhaps. No worries.
37 posted on 08/04/2015 5:28:10 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

IMO, Dolan is obviously in tune with the current, politically active, Leftist Pope, whom I refer to as “Francis the Talking Mule.”


38 posted on 08/04/2015 5:35:10 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE Support FR - GO MONTHLY - Join CLUB 300 - God bless FR's Donors!)
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To: Resettozero
My assessment is that Cardinal Dolan is worse than most, both because of his manifest filure to lead by Catholic principles, and his high placement as Cardinal and head of the USCCB Pro-Life Activities Committee.

He's almost a self-caricature: the guffawing stage-Irishman, florid, glad-handed, totally unmindful that he's supposed to protect the lambs and dismay the wolves, and not the other way around.

39 posted on 08/04/2015 5:42:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be" said the Cat,"or you wouldn't have come here.")
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To: Salvation

Feel free to post any of them...


40 posted on 08/04/2015 5:54:51 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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