Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Who cares whether the title is in Scripture or not? The important thing is that the title has a rational justification, based directly on what Scripture tells us about Jesus and Mary.
I have never found “Reformation Sunday” in the New Testament. Yet millions of Christians use the term, and celebrate it!
Are you saying that you don’t believe that Jesus Christ was God? True man and true God at the same time?
Our Deacon in Oklahoma used to say, “If you’re not Marian, you’re probably Arian.” The truths about Mary safeguard the truths about Jesus.
And as Professor Diggory said in the Narnia books, “What do they teach them in these schools?” Not logic ...
I don’t claim to be Orthodox. I am. I don’t have a problem with Mary as the Mother of God, because Jesus is God, and because I know that the term does not imply that she was the source of Jesus’ deity. The term also shows up in passing in some Orthodox liturgical texts. But the preferred title is Theotokos, and I think the term Theotokos (God-bearer) is more precise, and somehow doesn’t set off the same knee-jerk reactons from people who reject any honor to Mary, and who don’t wish to understand why and how the Church’s theology developed. As the poster I replied to says, “Theotokos” says more about Christ than it does about Mary, without diminshing her role in God’s work of salvation. She deserves that recognition. And her inclusion in our theology and devotion also affirms important christological doctrines.
Davidic tradition. The mother of the King is the Queen. The King still rules.
“Who cares whether the title is in Scripture or not?”
Only those who treasure the words of God as truth.
Only those who base theology on Scripture.
“The important thing is that the title has a rational justification, based directly on what Scripture tells us about Jesus and Mary.”
Well, no Arthur.
Why did God leave that title out of Scripture Arthur?
OK. After there is a sudden disappearance of a lot of people sometime between now and September 23, 2017, please realize that you have been following a religion founded in Babylon by Satan to deceive believers. This religion is described in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Remember! DO NOT TAKE THE MARK! They will cut your head off, but you will only have to die ONCE. If you take the MARK OF THE BEAST, you will die twice, and the second death is forever.
Acts Chapter 4
8†Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: 9“If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, 10“let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, †that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, †whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11“This is the †‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12†“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1060). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.
Mary the Mother of Tammuz can not save you! Only Jesus Christ (Yeshua HaMashiach) can save you.
“Are you saying that you don’t believe that Jesus Christ was God? True man and true God at the same time?”
Salvation, Christians believe Christ is true man and God both - from the point of His conception onwards. Before that, He was God, but not human.
For this reason, it is true to refer to Mary as “bearing God.”
It is wrong to imply or call her Mother of God.
Best.
To say that “God-bearer” is more precise than “Mother of God” separates gestation/delivery from motherhood. There’s a lot of that going around these days, but rent-a-wombs weren’t a thing back in the day.
To be honest I’ve never heard of that. But with as many feasts catholics have that are not mentioned in the Word or saints that ya’ll celebrate I’m not sure you’re one who should be talking.
**For this reason, it is true to refer to Mary as “bearing God.”
It is wrong to imply or call her Mother of God.**
Are you talking out of both sides of your mouth.
So your don’t believe that Jesus Christ was true God and true man either?
That he never rose from the dead?
I’ll take that as a yes.
Is that what he said? Go back and re-read the post. I understood it just fine. Catholics have this stumbling block on certain passages/truths.
“If you deny that Mary is the Mother of God, then you deny that Jesus is God.”
Amen.
“Are you talking out of both sides of your mouth.”
No dear Salvation. I’m being biblically accurate to avoid theological error.
I would be willing to bet that a Catholic priest has forgotten more about scripture than you will ever know.
““If you deny that Mary is the Mother of God, then you deny that Jesus is God.”
The divinity of Christ is well established in Scripture.
I guess many people are still Catholic Bashing.
Well I try to be a witness. Didn’t realize I was a hostile witness :).
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