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Answering Those Who Say There Is Only One Mediator
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 08-20-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 08/21/2015 7:07:55 AM PDT by Salvation

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1 posted on 08/21/2015 7:07:55 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 08/21/2015 7:09:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

So, in other words, the Bible is wrong? Does the good Monsignor intend on going down that rocky road?


3 posted on 08/21/2015 7:09:56 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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Even when I was a Catholic I thought this kind of thinking was blasphemous. Now I KNOW it is.


4 posted on 08/21/2015 7:11:47 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: rjsimmon

If the Bible doesn’t mean what it says, why doesn’t it say what it means?


5 posted on 08/21/2015 7:13:13 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: rjsimmon

I usually enjoy Msgr Pope.

I will even defend him against the foolish bigotry of Facebook.

But, given the choice, I would rather take the words of St. Paul and the Author of Hebrews to heart.


6 posted on 08/21/2015 7:14:04 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: rjsimmon
So, in other words, the Bible is wrong? Does the good Monsignor intend on going down that rocky road?

Either God is correct, or man is correct. Constant battle, isn't it?

7 posted on 08/21/2015 7:14:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Salvation

Reading the bible is the best defense against this type of gobbledygook.


8 posted on 08/21/2015 7:15:12 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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That's funny; I thought this picking on "fellow chrstians" was supposed to stop.

I guess that applies to only one side.

9 posted on 08/21/2015 7:19:25 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Genoa
If the Bible doesn’t mean what it says, why doesn’t it say what it means?

It doesn't mean what it says because it would be impossible to manipulate the masses with falsehoods if one followed the Bible. Look at the Koran, pure lies to manipulate the masses. Same thing with the Hindu Vedas and Buddhist texts. Sun Mying Moon has some stuff too. You want to get rich? Come up with some smooth-sounding writings that tell people what they WANT to hear instead of what they NEED to hear and you've got it made.

Politicians do it all of the time. The really SMART politicos ensure that their version of politics becomes the state religion (i.e. Communism and emperor worship).

10 posted on 08/21/2015 7:19:43 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Either God is correct, or man is correct. Constant battle, isn't it?

As for me and my house, I will serve the Lord.

11 posted on 08/21/2015 7:21:17 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Salvation
μεσίτης mesitēs

I.one who intervenes between two, either in order to make or restore peace and friendship, or form a compact, or for ratifying a covenant

II.a medium of communication, arbitrator

There is only one who restores us to peace and friendship with our God, and that is Jesus Christ. When we have people pray for us, they are not acting as mediators, but petition Christ to intervene on our behalf.

In a legal sense, they are not our lawyer, our advocate, but are amicus curiae (friend of the court).

Grace and Peace.

12 posted on 08/21/2015 7:23:34 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Might as well disable replies on this one if no criticism is allowed....


13 posted on 08/21/2015 7:25:06 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Salvation

I will ask live persons to pray for me or someone else. I do not ask dead people since they cannot be with us except by the will of God. I ask Him and His Son.


14 posted on 08/21/2015 7:25:54 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Salvation

Thank you for the post!


15 posted on 08/21/2015 7:26:49 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

But seriously, it will be hard to eliminate “Catholic bashing” as long as there are posts like this. One man’s positive assertion is another man’s insult, especially in the field of religion. This article is deliberately provocative toward Protestants. But I’m sure many Catholics think it’s a stouthearted defense of Holy Mother Church. Unhappiness will cease only if discussion of doctrine is banned altogether. Even then, a lot of religious news has a strong doctrinal component.


16 posted on 08/21/2015 7:30:01 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Salvation

I love my Catholic brethren, but I cannot follow you down that road.

I cannot see asking a dead person to do anything on my behalf.

I love you all, but I cannot go there.

Peace.


17 posted on 08/21/2015 7:33:06 AM PDT by TheRobb7 ("Patriots don't negotiate the terms of their enslavement"--JimRob)
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To: Old Sarge; Salvation
Thank you for the post!

....you rascal.

18 posted on 08/21/2015 7:33:24 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Whether the departed or alive is another question. It would SEEM that you will ask others to mediate for you. Is that correct?


19 posted on 08/21/2015 7:36:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: Salvation
But consider that if there is only one mediator in an absolute sense, then no one ought to ask ANYONE to pray for him

What balderdash! The Bible instructs us to pray for one another. Besides, there is a distinct division between the Church militant and the Church triumphant.

If I ask someone in the Church militant to pray for me, I can know that they heard me.

If I ask someone in the Church triumphant to pray for me, I do not know that they heard me and can only hope.

My hope is in Jesus, based on the word.

Since talking with someone in the Church triumphant is a one-way communication, maybe you should start incorporating a ouija board so you can receive answers. Because if a member of the Church triumphant does not have to obey the rules of time and space (how many people are praying to Mary at this time all over the world?) what big deal would it be to move a little piece of wood.

20 posted on 08/21/2015 7:38:36 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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