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How new laws banning so-called legal highs could stop cathedrals using incense
Chronicle Live (UK) ^ | 15 SEPTEMBER 2015 | JONATHAN WALKER

Posted on 09/16/2015 6:57:27 PM PDT by hiho hiho

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1 posted on 09/16/2015 6:57:27 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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More proof that the UK is circling the bowl. Really?


2 posted on 09/16/2015 7:03:38 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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More of the ongoing anti-Christian agenda from my stupid nations politicians.


3 posted on 09/16/2015 7:06:57 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy in Occupied Europa)
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One big nanny state.


4 posted on 09/16/2015 7:17:16 PM PDT by HollyB
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huh?? what is church incense anyway?


5 posted on 09/16/2015 7:20:29 PM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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While the Government does not intend to make burning incense an offence, the fear is that it may be included in the legislation inadvertently, partly because it is hard to define exactly what the phrase psychoactive substance refers to.

So perfume and artificial flavoring will also be banned? Sheer hysteria from the writer, nothing more.

6 posted on 09/16/2015 7:23:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Will Bernie Sanders run as an Independent if he does not get the nomination of the Democrat Party?)
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So perfume and artificial flavoring will also be banned? Sheer hysteria from the writer, nothing more.

I could see a vindictive prosecutor looking for an excuse to send someone to jail bringing charges for using perfume. A nanny state liberal could use this to get artificial flavoring removed from the food supply.
7 posted on 09/16/2015 7:28:55 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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“is hard to define exactly what the phrase psychoactive substance refers to”

Indeed. Even under a fairly strict use of the term, stuff like coffee, tobacco, chocolate, and of course alcohol must be included.


8 posted on 09/16/2015 7:32:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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This is nuts.


9 posted on 09/16/2015 7:41:49 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Mr. K
Dried camel poop—or equivalent—laced with fragrance.

I have asthma. At my daughter's confirmation they fired up the thurifer and I had to leave. Have the same problem with a lot of older lady's perfumes.

10 posted on 09/16/2015 7:42:41 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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Yeah, because as everyone knows, one or two sniffs, and in no time you have a 500 quid per day sandalwood habit.


11 posted on 09/16/2015 7:49:44 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Frankincense is tapped from the scraggy but hardy trees by slashing the bark, which is called striping, and allowing the exuded resin to bleed out and harden.

It was offered on a specialised incense altar in the time when the Tabernacle was located in the First and Second Jerusalem Temples. The ketoret was an important component of the Temple service in Jerusalem. It is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible book of Exodus 30:34, where it is named levonah (lebonah in the Biblical Hebrew), meaning “white” in Hebrew.[8] It was one of the ingredients in the perfume of the sanctuary (Exodus 30:34), and was used as an accompaniment of the meal-offering (Leviticus 2:1, 2:16, 6:15, 24:7). When burnt it emitted a fragrant odour, and the incense was a symbol of the Divine name (Malachi 1:11 ; Song of Solomon 1:3) and an emblem of prayer (Psalm 141:2 ; Luke 1:10 ; Revelation 5:8, 8:3). It was often associated with myrrh (Song of Solomon 3:6, 4:6) and with it was made an offering to the infant Jesus (Matthew 2:11). A specially “pure” kind, lebhonah zakkah, was presented with the showbread (Leviticus 24:7)

A 2008 study reported that frankincense smoke was a psychoactive drug that relieves depression and anxiety in mice.[21][22] The researchers found that the chemical compound incensole acetate was responsible for the effects.

— from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankincense


12 posted on 09/16/2015 7:52:32 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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Usually a mixture of frankincense resin with spices and aromatic oils (often from flowers) and sometimes myrrh, though some Russian incense is based on pine resin.

The Athonite style which uses a lot of aromatic oils is rolled in clay powder to keep it from sticking together, while the Russian style comes as crystals.

The problem is probably myrrh, which when disolved in wine has a narcotic effect (cf. the offer of said drink to Christ on the Cross), though if the legislation is as broad-brush as it sounds, it might also hit other oils used in the preparation of incense.


13 posted on 09/16/2015 7:56:52 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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I always loved the smell of church incense for some reason. It seemed like something really special even though I am otherwise not that interested in smells and not a fan of the types of incense people often use at home. As a kid the churches my family attended only used incense on rare occasions. I’m not religious now but I think I might actually go out of my way for an opportunity to smell that again. Maybe it does have some addictive qualities.


14 posted on 09/16/2015 8:38:12 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: hiho hiho

Nonsense to this law.


15 posted on 09/16/2015 8:43:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I actually hate incense. It makes my allergies go nuts. But I would never ask to ban it. When I am in a service with lots of incense, I make sure to sit where the ventilation is the best.


16 posted on 09/17/2015 4:21:44 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: hiho hiho

Religious People are incensed about this!


17 posted on 09/17/2015 7:21:08 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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It's generally bark and resins from frankincense, myrrh,and sandalwood, often in blends with other fragrances like oil of wild orange, rose petal essence, and spices.

I am unaware of anybody, ever, abusing this stuff to get high. It is not particularly psychotropic, no moreso than ordinary flower essences, perfume fragrances or even food aromas.

18 posted on 09/17/2015 7:49:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Semper Fi.)
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But they find it in chanting :o)


19 posted on 09/17/2015 7:51:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Semper Fi.)
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I find that rather Curias. :-)


20 posted on 09/17/2015 7:58:49 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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