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"There was a blackmail come from who knows where, through SWIFT, exercised on Benedict XVI."
Orwell's Picnic ^ | 9/29/15 | Hilary Jane Margaret White

Posted on 09/29/2015 10:27:22 AM PDT by BlatherNaut

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To: Vic S

There is a reason Russia just called the US a terrorist supporting State at the UN.

Because we are.

They are too.

The whole Arab Spring/ Defeat in Iraq has my blood up. I don’t know the plan that State has, and I fear there IS no plan. Just a bunch of idiots pandering to pedophiles.


21 posted on 09/29/2015 11:51:59 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Or onto CIPS. :-)


22 posted on 09/29/2015 11:56:56 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: redgolum

My personal opinion, after years of looking into this, is that the world is a controlled Oligarchy. America has it’s Oligarchy (Rockefellers, Morgans, Mellons, du Ponts, etc) but they report to the European old families that have been around for at least a thousand years. According to Daniel Estulin, who spent years in libraries in Florence and Venice, the same families exist today (and are more powerful than ever) that were part of the Venetian Black Nobility (the first trade monopoly) and they continued as part of the Dutch East Indies Company and then the British East Indies company. He was shown a bank statement for the Krupp family (arms merchants since the late 1500s) for 112 Trillion us dollars. It was just a snapshot from a private Swiss bank. Together these families are worth quadrillions. The control everything. They control the Central Banks and 40% of the publicly traded companies in the world. Our oligarchs control things by ownership of the media and through their large tax-exempt foundations.


23 posted on 09/29/2015 12:15:24 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: redgolum

My personal opinion, after years of looking into this, is that the world is a controlled Oligarchy. America has it’s Oligarchy (Rockefellers, Morgans, Mellons, du Ponts, etc) but they report to the European old families that have been around for at least a thousand years. According to Daniel Estulin, who spent years in libraries in Florence and Venice, the same families exist today (and are more powerful than ever) that were part of the Venetian Black Nobility (the first trade monopoly) and they continued as part of the Dutch East Indies Company and then the British East Indies company. He was shown a bank statement for the Krupp family (arms merchants since the late 1500s) for 112 Trillion us dollars. It was just a snapshot from a private Swiss bank. Together these families are worth quadrillions. The control everything. They control the Central Banks and 40% of the publicly traded companies in the world. Our oligarchs control things by ownership of the media and through their large tax-exempt foundations.


24 posted on 09/29/2015 12:15:25 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: BlatherNaut

So now SWIFT is evil? Ha ha ha.


25 posted on 09/29/2015 12:32:30 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: BlessedBeGod

I don’t think he did anything more than get too close to the source of corruption...and it struck back. His resignation came not long after he had gotten the report on corruption in the upper ranks and also not long after the episode where credit and debit cards were shut down within the Vatican (in January).

I think that was a threat to drive him away because he was on the point of upsetting a cozy scheme they had all worked out. Note that it was a German bank’s desire to take over the Vatican system that provoked the first shut down of the banking system. Remember that the Germans were his worst enemies and are still the leaders of the enemies of the Church within the Synod and elsewhere (and also, supposedly, many of those behind the election of Bergoglio). The German Church is fantastically wealthy because of the church tax that Germans pay (to whatever church they belong - it doesn’t all go to the Catholic Church!).

So I don’t think there’s anything implausible about this at all, although I wouldn’t say it’s blackmail but something else (somebody here called it extortion, and it would be more like that).


26 posted on 09/29/2015 12:35:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: sneakers

bttt


27 posted on 09/29/2015 1:10:23 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: BlessedBeGod
Your missing the point..he didn't do anything ..he did nothing wrong other then not be a liberal leftist.. someone want him out for the new (current) pope.. so to get him out they froze the Church's money...

Funny but Financial manipulation is how we got both Obama..( that market crash just before the election) and this Pope( if this story is true)...

Soros and friends?

28 posted on 09/29/2015 1:52:31 PM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriots are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: livius
So I don’t think there’s anything implausible about this at all, although I wouldn’t say it’s blackmail but something else (somebody here called it extortion, and it would be more like that).

Agree.

Here is more from the original article (via the Google translator):

"...Immediately after his departure, that unlocks that SWIFT transactions Vatican, reopens ATMs, back to the honor of the world the IOR. They did not wait that was elected Bergoglio; it took was the expulsion of the "white terror".

In the salons and unreachable between Wall Street and Washington and London, already they knew that the conclave would give the throne to a modernist, one they could trust. Why? The sanction SWIFT had been coordinated with the "conspirators" in purple, led by Carlo Maria Martini (a cardinal who requested euthanasia for himself, remember ..) (1) Bergoglio had marked as their candidate for years? There was an agreement of the conspirators with a strong external power, which are close to ideology?..."

Ratzinger non poté “né vendere né comprare”

29 posted on 09/29/2015 2:20:30 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

So Pope Francis has done nothing to correct this, correct?


30 posted on 09/29/2015 2:51:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlatherNaut

At least they showed some class this time and didn’t just kill him in his sleep like John Paul I, the thirty-day Pope.


31 posted on 09/29/2015 3:13:12 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: Salvation

If this is true, then, he’s not really Pope is he?


32 posted on 09/29/2015 3:31:44 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Jim 0216

SWIFT has been around for *ages*. Nothing particularly sinister about it, except in the hands of Obama’s administration which politicized *everything*.


33 posted on 09/29/2015 6:58:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Bump.....


34 posted on 09/29/2015 9:32:01 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: grey_whiskers

I don’t think there was anything particularly sinister about SWIFT; I doubt that the system itself initiated the shut down. But somebody must have ordered it, and it really would have put enormous pressure on the Pope to do whatever they wanted him to do (which, obviously, was to get out of their way).

As someone commented here, at least they didn’t kill him they way they did JPI. But I think that might have been a little too obvious, and they also wanted to make a point of their power by forcing him out.


35 posted on 09/30/2015 12:30:29 PM PDT by livius
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To: SatinDoll
The "Whistleblower" in this case just happens to have spent his military career as a psyops officer and I see no reason to believe that he wouldn't apply the same techniques for the same masters after leaving said military service.

Who doesn't know the US has been funding radical Islamist scum since Carter gave the go ahead to fund operations against the Soviets in Afghanistan and pay MB people to help Saddam produce chemical weapons for use against Iran? Does anyone really believe the CIA and others would cut their ties to very useful bands of maniacal murders just because they killed a few Americans now and then or on occasion failed to follow instructions?

Where the murderous scum get their money isn't a question mark at all, nor is the fact that the international money brokers twist the arm of the Vatican all the time. There's a Presidential election coming in the US, getting people looking anywhere except at the democrat fascist machine in this country is the goal.

A good conspiracy yarn (true or not) getting pumped up is just the ticket to get sheep looking away from the real issues in this country. For the good "Conservative" faithful, rest assured there's another "breaking" conspiracy yarn being tweaked for release sometime around Thanksgiving this year or the first of next year depending on how fast the herd of Republicans thins out.

Go back and look at the surge in conspiracy yarns in the six months prior to the Pope being shot back in '81 just a few months after Reagan was shot. In both cases, the target surviving has been described as nothing but luck. Personally, I prefer to believe it was something other than luck but that's another story.

IOW, it's all about misdirection.

JMHo

36 posted on 10/02/2015 5:27:11 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: M Kehoe

Banco Ambrosiano is the bank you are thinking of. I think BCCI was later, and only peripherally involved with the Vatican Bank.


37 posted on 10/03/2015 5:49:57 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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