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Soul Mates? Why Many Christian Marriages End Up In Divorce
BreakPoint ^ | 09/29/2015 | Eric Metaxas

Posted on 09/30/2015 2:40:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Jim 0216

Likewise, men, by and large, have abdicated their role as the protector and provider for their families.

Try to find a man who acts like a man as opposed to an overgrown boy.

Lay down his life for his wife?

Maybe if he can fit it in his work schedule.


61 posted on 09/30/2015 10:06:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Jim 0216; thackney

There’s some blame shifting right there.

It’s all the women’s fault????

If men are castigated, then who let them be?

Is there not a man around who can say “No” to that, or are they just going to go around blaming others for letting it happen to themselves?

I see the problem right there.


62 posted on 09/30/2015 10:12:04 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: thackney

You are absolutely right.

The MAN is the head of the home.

It’s not the woman’s fault if it’s out of whack.


63 posted on 09/30/2015 10:13:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Jim 0216
A lot of guys just give up at some point.

Those that do, don't understand the God given instruction we referenced earlier.

64 posted on 10/01/2015 5:12:37 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Castlebar

Thanks for the correction. Just contemplating Argentinian soul mates can make one’s mind foggy.


65 posted on 10/01/2015 5:24:56 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: kearnyirish2

The structure of welfare programs like EITC, SNAP, childcare subsidies discourage welfare for those we’d consider “lower class”, which is why marriage is now considered a “middle class” or higher thing.
Make less than 30K a year, and marrying the father causes you to lose 5-15K a year in benefits.


66 posted on 10/01/2015 5:29:32 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: metmom

Did I say it’s all the women’s fault? No, but I said they have the lion’s share of the fault. I also said that women (maybe like you) will go after people who start telling it like it is.

How many men scream with vitriol when told they should learn better how to love their wives? They’ll mostly agree. But if you told a crowd of women they need to learn to honor, obey and be subject to their husband in everything, you’re in danger of being run out of town on a rail or crucified.


67 posted on 10/01/2015 7:14:12 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: tbw2

You mean it discourages marriage, not welfare, correct? If so, you are so right (and this has been known for 50 years). At first the father would still live there (without the government’s knowledge) and still function as a father; now they’re way past that.


68 posted on 10/01/2015 2:08:06 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes, welfare discourages marriage.
And since a married couple invests and saves more than unmarried couples that make the same income, as well as invest more effort into the children, the breakdown of marriage is why a couple trillion dollars has done nothing to affect poverty numbers.


69 posted on 10/01/2015 2:23:43 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

True; also, when children are simply birthed for freebies (rather than love or a true desire to be a parent), there is no nurturing/rearing. A friend that worked in a ghetto school district described apartments that didn’t have a single book, where the unwed mothers pushed the school to stay open regardless of blizzard conditions so they didn’t have to deal with their golden-ticket welfare bastards. They were (and are) meal-tickets, nothing else.


70 posted on 10/01/2015 2:35:31 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SeekAndFind
No matter how many ads for Christian dating services you hear or trendy books you read, we simply don’t have “soul mates

True. But that doesn't mean that Christian dating services are useless. My wife and I had both been widowed. We met on catholicsingles.com. We found we had values in common, and found we liked each other. We've now been married almost 15 years. It's been a happy marriage.

Does that make us soul mates? I have no idea. Regardless, I'm sure glad I responded to her first email.

71 posted on 10/01/2015 5:42:28 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Men never will totally understand women

There are two times in a man's life when he doesn't understand women: before he marries one, and after he marries one. That's not an argument for not getting married, though.

72 posted on 10/01/2015 5:43:51 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: Jim 0216

You said....”But the big issue today, which is almost totally ignored and/or avoided is the problem with women.”

You did not say it was most women’s fault. You said it was women’s.

You do a lot of implying which leaves you with an out on a technicality.

No wonder you don’t like being exposed.


73 posted on 10/01/2015 8:17:53 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I said women were the BIG issue not the ONLY issue.

Go join the Leftist MSM if you haven’t already. They need people like you who are good at at twisting the truth.


74 posted on 10/01/2015 9:37:11 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: thackney; Jim 0216

Spot on. The woman should only follow the man if the man is following Christ aka being Christlike. Otherwise is a mockery of Grace.


75 posted on 10/02/2015 9:53:09 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Don’t see that condition in the Bible. Another excuse for women, like Eve, to be deceived and take of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, and for men, like Adam, to go along with the deception and resulting chaos.


76 posted on 10/02/2015 10:04:10 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: 1010RD

Please, be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Reread 1 Peter 3:1-4 about God’s instruction to the wife of an unbeliever and may God give us understanding and discernment to know what his will is.


77 posted on 10/02/2015 10:09:33 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

“Don’t see” which condition?


78 posted on 10/02/2015 11:21:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jim 0216

So an abusive husband or a philanderer are to be acceptable to the wife, in submission to her husband? Is that what Peter means when he uses the word “husband”?


79 posted on 10/02/2015 11:25:27 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: CatherineofAragon; Jeremiah Jr; 444Flyer; MeshugeMikey; Yehuda
Well, Mr. Metaxas, you can poo-pooh the concept of soulmates all you want, but the fact remains that I married mine nineteen years ago. I don’t apologize for it, either, because he is a blessing.

That's fantastic and as it should be. The author must really have poor reading comprehension:

Let me be perfectly clear: No matter how many ads for Christian dating services you hear or trendy books you read, we simply don’t have “soul mates,” at least as our confused culture understands that term. Does this surprise you? It shouldn’t. Look for that concept, by the way, in the Bible, and the only thing you can find remotely close to it is the fierce friendship of David and Jonathan. “Jonathan made a covenant with David,” Scripture says, “because he loved him as his own soul.”

Now those are soul mates, friends. But the Bible knows nothing of romantic “soul mates.”

He never got a clue from Jacob and Rachel? Sure there's work involved, but it goes like this:

Genesis 29:20 And Jacob served seven years for Rachel; and they seemed unto him but a few days, for the love he had to her.

And Leah sure knew. It is clearly reflected in the manner she named her sons. Lots of effort involved, but..

Reuben: Surely the LORD hath looked upon my affliction; now therefore my husband will love me.
Simeon: Because the LORD hath heard that I was hated, he hath therefore given me this son also:
Levi: Now this time will my husband be joined unto me, because I have born him three sons:
[Instead of lamenting, she praised the Lord upon the birth of Judah, who was destined to rule.]
And it goes on, with Leah "purchasing" a night with Jacob with Reuben's mandrakes.

And then there's the irony with *that* story. Mandrakes - dudaim - what those are have been debated since forever. The etymology strongly reflects a double belovedness. Does a son bring his mother a hideous root yanked up from a field? No, he lovingly gives her flowers. And what happened? Leah traded them off to Rachel.

My own thought is that the flowers were forget-me-nots, called in Hebrew in the positive, that is zichrini, "remember me". Rachel was Jacob's soulmate. She perceived wisely.

Leah bore two more sons after that, but then it is written:

Genesis 30:22 And God remembered Rachel, and God hearkened to her, and opened her womb.

Joseph is known as Joseph the Tzaddik - the Righteous - the foundation of the world.

As we have already seen, early on Joseph is linked to the fulfillment of Jacob's legacy...

80 posted on 10/02/2015 12:38:32 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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