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“Done Roman” and Coming Home to the Catholic Church
Aletelia ^ | October 26, 2015 | FR DWIGHT LONGENECKER

Posted on 10/26/2015 2:22:44 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/26/2015 2:22:44 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/26/2015 2:23:36 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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Mine and my wife’s favorite show bar none. We never miss an episode.


3 posted on 10/26/2015 2:33:21 PM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: NYer

They went out from us because they were not of us...

You can have those who are not chosen of God.


4 posted on 10/26/2015 2:34:24 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Millions Of Latinos Have Abandoned Catholic Church Since 2010, Pew Says:

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2014/05/07/catholic-church-lost-millions-us-latino-followers-since-2010/

“More than 4 million Latinos in the United States have left the Catholic Church since 2010, according to a new Pew Research Center survey that spotlighted the church’s ongoing exodus of Latinos, a group seen as pivotal to the future of Catholicism.”

I’ll see you one poorly catechized Presbyterian and raise you 4 million Hispanics...

Just in the US.


5 posted on 10/26/2015 3:09:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: NYer

Home ain’t what it was when you left.


6 posted on 10/26/2015 3:13:37 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: Dutchboy88

Boo hoo sour-grape, hop off your bicycle.


7 posted on 10/26/2015 3:42:12 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Lost is as lost does...


8 posted on 10/26/2015 3:43:07 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Whatever.


9 posted on 10/26/2015 3:45:01 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Well, eternity is at stake and apparently at God’s direction he opted out.


10 posted on 10/26/2015 4:17:37 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
"and apparently at God’s direction he opted out."

Says you. I am continually amused that Protestants simultaneously scorn the idea of a pope while apportioning to themselves greater infallible discernment than a pope has ever claimed.

11 posted on 10/26/2015 4:48:13 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: NYer

No mention if he’s following Christ. He just changed denominations.


12 posted on 10/26/2015 6:52:59 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

When the rcc decides if the first 11 chapters of Genesis is literal or symbolic get back to us. Then we can talk.


13 posted on 10/26/2015 6:55:16 PM PDT by ealgeone
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2 Timothy 2:2 and what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.

An apostolic teaching must come from an apostles. For an apostolic teaching to be trustworthy, it must either come from an apostle directly or it must have many witnesses that can attest to the apostolic origin on the teaching.

The letters of the apostles have been authenticated by the witness of Christians since the beginning of the church.

Outside of the Bible, there are no apostolic teachings that are trustworthy. If you doubt this statement, read the church fathers. When they quote an apostles, they quote from the Bible. They never mention any teaching that had been passed down from oral tradition.

14 posted on 10/26/2015 7:45:53 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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You probably won’t be laughing when this is over...nor will the man who swam the Tiber.


15 posted on 10/27/2015 9:00:47 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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No mention if he’s following Christ. He just changed denominations.

He was lured in by the stained glass, incense, candles, statues, repetitious chanting, etc.
16 posted on 10/27/2015 9:24:35 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama's Iran nuclear deal - The Devil is in the details.)
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No mention if he’s following Christ.

The Catholic Church is founded by Jesus Christ; hence, he is following Christ.

He just changed denominations.

Catholicism is not a denomination because it's the Church Christ instituted. Other Christian sects arose from it.

17 posted on 10/27/2015 10:29:53 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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Just because you join a church doesn't mean you are a follower of Christ.

The roman catholic church is not seen in the NT. No pope, no indulgences, no hail mary's, no worship of mary, no prayers to the dead, no priesthood, no nuns, etc.

18 posted on 10/27/2015 10:39:22 AM PDT by ealgeone
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Outside of the Bible, there are no apostolic teachings that are trustworthy. If you doubt this statement, read the church fathers. When they quote an apostles, they quote from the Bible. They never mention any teaching that had been passed down from oral tradition.

Matthew 23:2

Just before launching into a blistering denunciation of the scribes and Pharisees, Jesus delivers this command to the crowds: "The scribes and Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice" (Matt. 23:2-3).

Although Jesus strongly indicts his opponents of hypocrisy for not following their own teaching, he nevertheless insists that the scribes and Pharisees hold a position of legitimate authority, which he characterizes as sitting "on Moses’ seat." One searches in vain for any reference to this seat of Moses in the Old Testament. But it was commonly understood in ancient Israel that there was an authoritative teaching office, passed on by Moses to successors.

As the first verse of the Mishna tractate Abôte indicates, the Jews understood that God’s revelation, received by Moses, had been handed down from him in uninterrupted succession, through Joshua, the elders, the prophets, and the great Sanhedrin (Acts 15:21). The scribes and Pharisees participated in this authoritative line and as such their teaching deserved to be respected.

Jesus here draws on oral Tradition to uphold the legitimacy of this teaching office in Israel. The Catholic Church, in upholding the legitimacy of both Scripture and Tradition, follows the example of Jesus himself.

In addition, we see that the structure of the Catholic Church—with an authoritative teaching office comprised of bishops who are the direct successors of the apostles—follows the example of ancient Israel. While there are groups of Christians today that deny continuity between Israel and the Church, historic orthodox Christianity has always understood the Church to be a fulfillment of Israel. This verse about Moses' chair illuminates why we say that the successor of Peter, when he gives a solemn teaching for the whole Church, is said to speak <ex cathedra> or "from the chair."

Whereas under the Old Covenant the administration of God’s people came from the "chair of Moses," Christians under the New Covenant look to the "chair of Peter" for direction on questions of faith and morals. But there is a notable difference between the magisterium under the Old Covenant and our teachers under the New Covenant. The successors of the apostles, and especially Peter’s successor, have the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth, and they have Jesus’ promise that the "gates of hell will not prevail" against the Church (Matt. 16:17-19). ref

19 posted on 10/27/2015 10:45:28 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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He also condemned their tradition on more than one occasion.......


20 posted on 10/27/2015 11:03:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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