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Pope Francis’ Synagogue Visit Underscores New Document on Catholic-Jewish Relations
National Catholic Register ^ | 1/16/16 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 01/17/2016 10:48:30 AM PST by ebb tide

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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thus Jews and Christians have the same mother and can be seen, as it were, as two siblings who - as is the normal course of events for siblings - have developed in different directions.

Different directions, but both are saved?

How do you explain that? Using that logic, muslims could be the third sibling of this mythical "mother".

61 posted on 01/18/2016 6:35:26 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Iscool
You want to show us where Paul tells anyone to continue creating traditions outside of the scriptures??? Can't do it??? Imagine that!!! The comical part is that while your religion claims it has authority to create new tradition while having no authoritative warrant other than its own proclamation, your religion has no clue whatsoever what those traditions are that Paul spoke of...What a farce...

MY religion? Lol. You give me way too much credit.

I guess YOUR religion thinks that it's okay to insult the faith of others. Strange religion you have.
Catholicism, based on the word CATHOLIC, which only means "universal," has been around a long time since it was founded by Jesus. Even our entire system of time and dates is based on Our Savior's birth. We are Christians, our name coming from Jesus Christ.
I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

HOWEVER, you ARE indeed free to insult, debase, loathe and utterly dislike that faith that Jesus started. It's your life and soul.

God bless you and yours anyway.

62 posted on 01/18/2016 8:30:12 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: ebb tide
The above link is for y'alls perusal and edification.

Oh, THANK YOU. You are such a nice person.

63 posted on 01/18/2016 8:31:47 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m glad we agree on something.

Do you agree with Cardinal Koch on the following?

“In concrete terms this means that the Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews.”

Has francischurch conducted or supported any specific institutional mission work towards any non-Catholics; let alone practicing homosexual and heterosexual fornicating Catholics?

It seems francischurch’s only missionary activity is to bash traditional Catholics.


64 posted on 01/18/2016 8:32:04 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: cloudmountain

Anytime. I’ll be sure to send you more.


65 posted on 01/18/2016 8:33:43 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Anytime. I’ll be sure to send you more.

Send all you want. Always a pleasure to converse with a fellow Catholic...or as my husband called us, kipper snackers. :o) I sure miss him.

66 posted on 01/18/2016 8:35:44 PM PST by cloudmountain
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From an article written by Father Ladis J. Cizik in the Catholic Family News August 2015 issue:

At the moment that Jesus died on the Cross, Scripture tells us that “the veil of the Temple was rent in two, from the top even to the bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were rent ... “ (Mt 27:51). Catholic teaching has traditionally interpreted the moment of Jesus’ Death as the end of the Old Covenant. In Mystici Corporis, Pope Pius XII wrote, “And first of all, by the death of our Redeemer, the New Testament took the place of the Old Law which had been abolished; then the Law of Christ together with its mysteries, enactments, institutions, and sacred rites was ratified for the whole world in the Blood of Jesus Christ. “

Pius XII continues, “Saint Leo the Great, speaking of the Cross of Our Lord said there ‘was effected a transfer from the Law to the Gospel, from the Synagogue to the Church, from many sacrifices to one Victim, that as Our Lord expired, that mystical veil which shut off the innermost part of the temple and its sacred secret was rent violently from top to bottom’” (Mystici Corporis, #29). Temple sacrifices were now replaced by the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, a non-bloody representation of the Lamb of God’s once and for all Sacrifice on Calvary. Pope Benedict XIV in Ex Quo writes: “The first consideration is that the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law were abrogated by the coming of Christ and that they can no longer be observed without sin after the promulgation of Gospel”(Ex Quo, #61).

The tearing of the veil in the Temple is seen as representing the end of the Old Covenant, sealed with the blood of animals; and the beginning of the New Covenant, sealed with the Precious Blood of Christ. The veil of the Temple is understood to have been that veil which separated the “Holy of Holies,” which once contained the Ark of the Covenant, from the rest of the Temple. This revealing of the Holy of Holies is seen as the suppression of the Mosaic cult and an invitation to all peoples, Jews and Gentiles, into a New and Everlasting Covenant. Pope Pius XII writes: “With the rending of the veil of the Covenant, it happened that the Paraclete’s gifts, which heretofore had descended only on the fleece, that is the people of Israel, fell copiously and abundantly (while the fleece remained dry and deserted) on the whole earth, this is on the Catholic Church, which is confined by no boundaries of race or territory” (Mystici Corporos, #31).

Given all the perennial magisterial Church teaching and the Biblical evidence that converge on this matter, it is indeed difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with voices of modern times presenting the novel concept that the Old Covenant was never abrogated. The tearing of this massive curtain, said to have been 60 feet high by 30 feet wide, from top to bottom, could only have been done by the Hand of God, also indicating that a new “Ark of the Covenant” had been provided by Almighty God.


67 posted on 01/19/2016 4:37:07 PM PST by ebb tide (Are you a sedevanctist)
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