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Does the Bible Have Errors?
Ligonier Ministries ^ | 3/16/16 | RC Sproul

Posted on 03/18/2016 9:19:10 AM PDT by Sam's Army

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To: Sam's Army

I’ve heard Gawd admitted he erred when he made the avacado pit too big.


21 posted on 03/18/2016 10:01:58 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: ThomasThomas
People make errors in reading the Bible all the time

...as they do translating it, it is called human error which has existed since Eve's chat with the serpent in the garden.

22 posted on 03/18/2016 10:10:13 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: SubMareener

“It is possible to write down equations of motion for three bodies in a Newtonian Gravitational Field. If the initial positions and velocities, i.e., the boundary conditions, are known, then one can use the differential equations of motion to calculate future positions, but it is impossible to write down explicit equations for the orbits of the objects.”

Indeed, I don’t think most people realize how absolutely hamstrung physicists are when trying to accurately describe even relatively simple dynamic systems. Yet, if we can’t solve something as simple as the 3 body problem, how can we model a much more complex dynamic system like climate? It’s an exercise in futility. With the 3 body problem we at least know most of the variables, but with climate we have no idea how many variables we are missing.

Expand that from the climate of one planet to cosmologically modeling the life of the entire universe, and the missing data and errors are only going to multiply exponentially. Yet we fancy we can actually craft reliable theories on the basis of such dodgy math :)


23 posted on 03/18/2016 10:11:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: WENDLE

“What is a “scripture” ?”

In that verse, it means the Torah and Tanakh of the Hebrews. The word used translated literally as “writings”, with the implied sense of “holy writings”, and those were the only holy writings that would have been recognized by the people being spoken to.


24 posted on 03/18/2016 10:15:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

What made them “holy’? Was it The Council of Laodicia in 311 A.D.? What about the estimated 3000 writings rejected ? Just asking.


25 posted on 03/18/2016 10:20:54 AM PDT by WENDLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE)
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To: Sam's Army

The Holy Bible - the most vilified, despised, hated, questioned, disputed, challenged, doubted, accepted, praised, revered, turned-to, strengthening, loved, best selling book in all the world for all time.


26 posted on 03/18/2016 10:23:10 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Sam's Army
Does the Bible Have Errors?

Luther thought so.

27 posted on 03/18/2016 10:26:45 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Luther found fault with the Catholics, the Pope, the Saints and the deification of Mary.


28 posted on 03/18/2016 10:34:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: Raycpa

That is the classic rewrite of “God’s Word” in which we are not to add one “dot or tittle”. Jesus had zero blood of David unless you accept that Joseph was the father of Jesus— Which none of us do. To say that Jesus had the blood line of David is yet another error. The inerrantcy crowd want the strict interpretation until it comes to errors . Then they want to rewrite what it clearly says right on the page. But thanks, I enjoyed reading that stuff again. Huge problems exist with that contradiction.
I have concluded that some actually have an iconic worship on the Bible more than the Son Of God. That becomes a “false idle” rather quickly especially the King James mistranslation of the Greek word EKKLESIA from it’s actual clear meaning of “The called out” ( or all believers) to the word “church” from the old English word for Circle. To fathom the import of that mistranslation is truly mind boggling. But that is another level of error not for this discussion.


29 posted on 03/18/2016 10:41:41 AM PDT by WENDLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

What does any of that have to do with Luther editing the bible to his own whims?


30 posted on 03/18/2016 10:42:32 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Sam's Army

It only errs in areas of sexual morality. And pride.


31 posted on 03/18/2016 10:45:37 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: WENDLE

“But that is not the greatest error. Joseph was not the father of Jesus.”

Actually, Joseph was the father of Jesus. Not in the biological sense, but in the legal sense. Jesus was born to Mary after Mary wedded Joseph, so he was legally Joseph’s son, regardless of who the biological father was. Joseph could have prevented that by declaring Jesus a bastard (and accusing Mary of adultery), but he did not, so Jesus remained Joseph’s son.


32 posted on 03/18/2016 10:49:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

There was no blood line to David. Right? zero?


33 posted on 03/18/2016 10:51:41 AM PDT by WENDLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE)
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To: ebb tide

He translated it from Greek into a language spoken by common people, instead of a translation of a translation (Latin) understood only by the clergy.

Until then, the masses had to take their word for it,, and understand not much. The Roman elites had the corner on the market, and made themselves the purveyors/enforcers of faith and the necessary “middleman” with God.

They could, and did, make God’s word say whatever they wanted it to.


34 posted on 03/18/2016 10:56:07 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Ohhh....Derka derka derka!)
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To: WENDLE

“What made them “holy’? Was it The Council of Laodicia in 311 A.D.?”

No... how could that make any kind of sense? The verse that was quoted was written long before that council was held. They were “holy” because they were the writings of the patriarchs and prophets of Israel, delivered to them by God.

“What about the estimated 3000 writings rejected ?”

That’s an extremely broad question. Some of those 3000 writings never would have even been considered by the council, because they were not Hebrew or Christian writings to begin with. When people talk about “3000 books”, they are including works from the gnostics and other pagan sects in order to inflate the total. The actual number of books that were under consideration was orders of magnitude smaller.

For those that were evaluated, they would have been evaluated individually, so the reasons for their not being included would have been individual reasons. You can’t give blanket answers as to why they were rejected, because they were rejected for reasons specific to each individual work.


35 posted on 03/18/2016 10:56:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: WENDLE

Perhaps through Mary’s side of the family, but not in the male line.


36 posted on 03/18/2016 10:59:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: WENDLE

Bloodline and inheritance are not equal.


37 posted on 03/18/2016 11:39:39 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Sam's Army

No.


38 posted on 03/18/2016 11:43:45 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: alloysteel; Sam's Army
How could any sentient creature conceive of a formula that speaks of the Word of God as errant? It would seem obvious that if a book is the Word of God, it does not (indeed, cannot) err. If it errs, then it is not (indeed, cannot be) the Word of God.

This is why we KNOW that the Apocryphal/Deuterocananical books are not Divinely inspired scripture. God doesn't make mistakes.

39 posted on 03/18/2016 11:52:58 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: WENDLE

**Joseph was not the father of Jesus. Bad error.**

Sure he was.

As far as a legal record goes, Joseph was the father of Jesus.

But as we continue to read we discover who his real father is.


40 posted on 03/18/2016 12:14:28 PM PDT by Gamecock ( Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul...Matthew 10:28)
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