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A Reason for Lukewarm Catholics
Catholic Stand ^ | May 1, 2016 | David Roney

Posted on 05/02/2016 11:50:24 AM PDT by NYer

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To: tenthirteen
When the Catholic Faith was watered down at Vatican II, is there any wonder why there is such lukewarmness?

Post 1960's, how many Catholics actually believe that one must be Catholic for salvation? Compared with....how many Catholics believe that the Catholic Faith is merely "the fullness of the Truth"?

21 posted on 05/02/2016 2:04:37 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: areukiddingme1

You know, that’s when I had a problem with my priest, too, spouting that kind of stuff, but abortion, euthanasia, and forced killing of vulnerable people got no air time from him. Yes, I left that parish for good, and then wandered around without a parish for a few years. Then I stopped going at all, for a number of years. I wanted to go, but I knew my old parish had glaring eyes. Fortunately, God rescued me, and dealt a long distance move to us. The first thing we did was find a new Catholic parish to call home. It has been a blessing! We have a lovely traditional priest, and Mass is holy and sacred again. God is good!


22 posted on 05/02/2016 2:11:26 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: 353FMG

“Wow, beautiful words — you must have a job. Want to trade places?”

Would you like to trade places with the martyrs? To quote Collin Raye, nobody says that life is fair, and we’ve all got a cross to bear. For the nothing that it’s worth, you have my condolences about your employment troubles; but the fact that you’re having a difficult time doesn’t mean that you should doubt God’s love. People have died in agony without doubting it.


23 posted on 05/02/2016 2:34:17 PM PDT by Prince of Desmond
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To: Prince of Desmond

I’ve had to deal with this particular cross a few times in my life. Prayers to St. Joseph are particularly useful.


24 posted on 05/02/2016 2:46:11 PM PDT by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.")
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To: NYer

See my tagline.


25 posted on 05/02/2016 2:48:59 PM PDT by shortstop (Why is the worst Pope of my lifetime serving at the same time as the worst President of my lifetime?)
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To: 353FMG

I’ve lived through some hard times and wondered where God was too, without exception, when I got through it I have been truly blessed. My miracles rarely come in one fell swoop but one small step at a time and many I’ve not even noticed until I was looking back.


26 posted on 05/02/2016 2:51:18 PM PDT by tiki
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To: 353FMG
Novena to Saint Cajetan, Patron of the Unemployed {Ecumenical Prayer Thread]

27 posted on 05/02/2016 3:09:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Dick Vomer

From the Invitatory Psalm:
Come let us sing to the Lord
and shout with Joy to the Rock who saves us.
Let us approach Him with Praise and Thanksgiving
and sign Joyful songs to the Lord.


28 posted on 05/02/2016 3:30:53 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: piusv
Post 1960's, how many Catholics actually believe that one must be Catholic for salvation?

Its the work of the Holy Spirit that regenerates a person, not being born into a Catholic family and infant baptized.
29 posted on 05/02/2016 3:53:49 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Calling Obama a POS is a major insult to S.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

I know. Singing and singing and singing. Yeah. I get it.
It’s just whatever you’re used to.

I don’t know. Maybe it’s me but when I say my rosary at night, I’m not singing, when I sometimes get down on my knees asking for God to help me understand what life is giving me.... I’m not doing some sing song 4/4 song in the key of C or whatever.

It’s just a choice. You like to sing , awesome. I like to pray , awesome. We can worship without conflict. Awesome.


30 posted on 05/02/2016 4:43:51 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: 353FMG
When you are unemployed and you have prayed your heart out for a job, and there is no answer, it’s hard to believe in the abyss God’s mercy.

Been there. It's a rough passage on the road of life. Like you, I felt abandoned but held fast to my faith with the words of St. Paul; "If God is for you, who can be against you?" I struggled for a long time but suddenly, a job opportunity came along. Despite being (in my opinion) the least qualified of the 40 candidates that applied, I was given the position. It proved to be the answer to those prayers. Later, reflecting back on the time of struggle, I realized that our Lord had accompanied me on that journey. Will keep you in my prayers.

31 posted on 05/02/2016 5:39:41 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: 353FMG
When you are unemployed and you have prayed your heart out for a job, and there is no answer, it’s hard to believe in the abyss God’s mercy.

About 11 years ago I went through a period of unemployment and under employment. It was only after I accepted my current position that I was able to see God had used those difficulties to prepare me for moving to a new state and accepting this position. I am adding you to my prayer list.

32 posted on 05/02/2016 6:20:31 PM PDT by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: 353FMG

We all have our crosses to bear.

My suggestion is to go help someone in your field. Solve a problem. Be around people that can make connections for you.

Go look for opportunities that you could serve others, you may find a way to make some money and to get noticed.

Consider starting your own company. Start small. Find some customers and provide a service or product. Be competitive in pricing, pricing can always increase as your demand and volume increases. Many business begin by offering a lower price and great service in the beginning.

Visit the Holy Eucharist and ask for God’s help.


33 posted on 05/02/2016 6:55:02 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: 353FMG

Been there too.

And sometimes you don’t want people to list everyone who has or has it worse than you.

You don’t want people to throw a few Scriptures in your direction and then walk away as though they have done you a monumental favor.

You don’t want people sending you job listings that your husband already applied for ad nauseam.

Groceries would have been nice. Just knowing someone cared. But when I became so discouraged as to not pray for our situation anymore... someone saying “ it’s our turn to pray on your behalf” or “let’s pray together” would have been amazing
No judgment or condemnation. And that is what I will do for you FRiend


34 posted on 05/02/2016 7:01:40 PM PDT by karatemom
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To: NYer

Lack of catechesis has brought us the lukewarm Catholics.

All pastors need to have an Adult Education program at the top of their priorities.


35 posted on 05/02/2016 9:34:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 353FMG

I understand your suffering about being without work. I understand desperate financial times and then being hit with a potentially terminal diagnosis, one that killed your sister 9 months previous, and a lot more bills we can’t afford.

Then I read yesterday 6 children lost their parents within 48 hours. The mother was 40 and threw a blood clot in her sleep, died at the local hospital. 48 hours later, 38 year old father died in his sleep from a heart attack.

Someone always has it worse than we do. As the saying goes, if we all got together and thew our problems in a pile, and could pick up whatever we choose, most of us would pick our own back up.


36 posted on 05/03/2016 3:54:11 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower

>Someone always has it worse than we do<

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That certainly does not make me feel better.


37 posted on 05/03/2016 4:11:53 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
Have been in the same spot. Don't know for sure, can't know for now I guess, but maybe His plan involves us being at times the instrument of his mercy to others, feeding the poor, instructing the ignorant, etc. and other times we are to be the objects of his mercy through others. Maybe sometimes we are supposed to be a chance for someone to be Christ like to us in our time of need,

I know it's hard to be on the receiving end rather than the giving end, but endure and He will not fail to be revieled in some small way.

I'll offer my prayers, such as they are, so that you can once again be on the giving end of the team./

38 posted on 05/03/2016 6:54:05 PM PDT by conservonator (God between us and the devil!)
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To: Dick Bachert
I have a dear friend who is a hardcore TRADITIONAL Catholic. His son is a priest. He is HEARTSICK and tells me he’s convinced that the Vatican has been captured by the Marxists! As I watch this Pope, I’m convinced he’s right!

Nah, you're both wrong...Francis is indeed a bit leaning toward socialism but that's where he's from. He will do NOTHING to affect Catholic doctrine based on his upbringing.There are Catholics from every country on Earth and some of them have different opinions than we do.....so be it, the Pope can come from anywhere and is, of course, the product of his environment.....all will be O.K.....pray for it.

39 posted on 05/04/2016 7:49:27 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: FamiliarFace
The first thing we did was find a new Catholic parish to call home. It has been a blessing! We have a lovely traditional priest, and Mass is holy and sacred again. God is good!

Mass is what YOU make it....I know a few people who actually left the church because they didn't like a particular priest....pathetic, like leaving the country because you don't like the president. We all have to put up, temporarily, with things that we might not agree with....so be it. No situation that I might not like could ever make me even doubt the church. Bad situations are created by fallible men and I don't have a lot of time for them.

40 posted on 05/04/2016 8:05:12 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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