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Adam Lived to Be 900? Maybe, but Our Shorter Life Spans Tell Us More Than We Might Like to Admit
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 06-09-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/10/2016 7:06:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Borges
The belief in the divinity of Jesus would be regarded as Idolatry.

Naturally, since followers of Judaism obviously don't believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Especially since they disbelieve Jewish prophecy has been fulfilled.

I guess we'll all discover THE Truth soon enough.

141 posted on 06/14/2016 9:44:06 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: Shanghai Dan
It’s not the exact number that matters; I mean, if it was 897 instead of 900, would that crush your faith? If it turned out that really WAS 897 and 900 would your belief in the enternal truths and guidance in the Bible be diminished?

My guess for answers for both is “no”.

There ya go.

142 posted on 06/14/2016 9:46:00 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: trebb
I appreciate your efforts and faith....

My Brother/Sister, we could literally exchange posts regarding the Bible for years. We all learn from each other. My problem is that my playfulness and sarcasm escapes out of my brain too often ;-)

The risks of these types of threads are difficult at times in that often context is lost during exchanges, and if not clarified fairly soon, patching it back together becomes rather tedious and perhaps more misunderstandings arise -- even petty ones. People sometimes get overly defensive.

I know this -- that I concurred with most of your content; God will NOT be mocked.

Some of Scripture is obviously open to interpretation and examination. That said, I believe EVERY WORD is The Truth. From Genesis onward. We cannot hope to understand every reason and purpose of an Infinite Almighty. We should continue to pray that the Holy Spirit continues to guide us in His Name in increasing our faith and sharing a fellowship with our brethren and others who hunger for The Truth.

143 posted on 06/14/2016 10:00:36 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: HangUpNow
Some of Scripture is obviously open to interpretation and examination. That said, I believe EVERY WORD is The Truth. From Genesis onward. We cannot hope to understand every reason and purpose of an Infinite Almighty. We should continue to pray that the Holy Spirit continues to guide us in His Name in increasing our faith and sharing a fellowship with our brethren and others who hunger for The Truth.

Amen and Amen!

144 posted on 06/15/2016 3:21:07 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Borges
Judaism means that Jews follow the 613 commandments and Gentiles follow the Seven Laws of Noah or the Noachide laws

I'm not trying to be contentious, just sincerely want to know:

Are there negative or long term consequences for disobeying or even ignoring one or more of the 613 of these laws?

I just looked up the 613 laws, I read many but not all of them but don't understand how any human could keep all of them.

The 7 laws to be a righteous gentile are much easier to keep, so are there different rewards or punishments for being a righteous gentile or a law keeping Jew?

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment you may give for my ignorance.

145 posted on 06/15/2016 9:56:26 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Crooked Hillary's going down and I aint talkin about, on Huma.)
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To: Graybeard58; Zionist Conspirator

ZC could probably answer this question better than I. I believe that it’s not possible to keep all 613 till after the Messiah comes and the Temple is rebuilt.


146 posted on 06/15/2016 10:53:01 AM PDT by Borges
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To: castlegreyskull
I read somewhere, that there was a higher level of oxygen before the flood that would have contributed to longer lifespans.

There is some evidence that there was an ice canopy covering the earth, some distance up. The theory is that this ice canopy was shattered by a 'fly-by' such as an asteroid. As the ice fell it melted and produced the rain that was responsible for the flood. The canopy would explain the higher oxygen content, maybe exceeding 30%. the air trapped in pieces of amber has been analyzed and found to be in this range.

147 posted on 06/15/2016 10:59:11 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Graybeard58

A person (Jew or non-Jew) anguishes his soul when he fails to follow God’s laws. A soul contaminated by sin in this life will need a cleansing and rectification before moving on in the next life. This cleansing is sometimes seen by our egos in this life as punishment.

One good starting point is

http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380332/jewish/The-Mitzvot-of-Non-Jews.htm


148 posted on 06/15/2016 1:33:01 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: trebb

Backatcha, brutha!


149 posted on 06/15/2016 1:47:30 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I never heard that one. Makes sense to me.

That is the problem with non-believers, they cannot imagine the World and its atmosphere different than it is now. They will say something like, we only live to about 100 years old at the most, but the Bible says people lived 900 years, therefore it is fake.


150 posted on 06/15/2016 2:04:40 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Graybeard58; Borges; Zionist Conspirator
I just looked up the 613 laws, I read many but not all of them but don't understand how any human could keep all of them.

No human can. If they can they aren't human (HINT).

Apparently a just God is also going to ding you for spelling His name, "G-O-D" instead of "G_D" as the Pharisees nudge Him.

The 7 laws to be a righteous gentile are much easier to keep, so are there different rewards or punishments for being a righteous gentile or a law keeping Jew?

Did Moses miscount the Ten Commandments?

And Number 11:

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."~ John 13:34

151 posted on 06/15/2016 2:45:12 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: castlegreyskull

It did not rain for some 1600 years, the Flood was the first time it rained. Dew and/or water coming out of the ground kept vegetation growing.

The high oxygen content was very healing. I believe the atmospheric pressure was much higher too, maybe twice what it is now. The combination of higher oxygen content and higher atmospheric pressure is the basis for wound healing using a hyperbaric chamber.

The original creation was designed to provide an environment for Man to live forever. Sin changed that, but up to the time of the flood we had an environment conducive to long life.


152 posted on 06/16/2016 5:02:24 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

It is all very amazing stuff. Sin is a destructive road. I have accepted that the world will get much worse; I don’t see how it will improve. On one hand traditionally Western countries are rejected Christ outright. On the other hand, Islam is on a rampage. Then the ones who reject all religion have increased in violence, sexual immorality, and deceit. We are labeled the enemy by our own government and by those who they are shipping in.

The end is near and God is in control.

Interesting, the same on how the atmosphere changed and caused the Flood, it would make sense on how final Judgement of the World would take place.


153 posted on 06/16/2016 5:17:45 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Graybeard58

Here’s what the Bible says about the ability to obey God’s commandments:

Deuteronomy 30:10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.

12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.


154 posted on 06/16/2016 6:13:09 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Graybeard58

Are there negative or long term consequences for disobeying or even ignoring one or more of the 613 of these laws?


Paul addresses this question in his letter to the Galatians:

We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Galatians 2:15-21


155 posted on 06/16/2016 8:12:23 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265

I am sincerely trying to learn more about Judaism. I am a Christian and am well aware of what we believe. Thanks for the post.


156 posted on 06/16/2016 12:22:28 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Crooked Hillary's going down and I aint talkin about, on Huma.)
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To: jjotto

I very recently finished rereading Deuteronomy, the verses you quoted are beautiful, among my favorites.

Another was from Joshua, when his death was imminent. He was exhorting people to choose God and not choose to worship the idols of the land they had recently defeated and he said, “As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord”.


157 posted on 06/16/2016 12:31:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Crooked Hillary's going down and I aint talkin about, on Huma.)
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To: Graybeard58

Thanks for clarifying. I realized after posting that I misunderstood your question. I am also interested in learning more about the Jewish faith and found some good information at the link below. A bullet item in their mission statement is to provide educational material on Jewish history and culture.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/about/index.shtml


158 posted on 06/18/2016 7:36:30 AM PDT by rwa265
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