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Pope Francis says most marriages today are ‘invalid’. This is a disaster for the Catholic Church
The Spectator ^
| June 17, 2016
| Damian Thompson
Posted on 06/16/2016 9:22:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: MHGinTN
Do you believe surrogate mothers commit a sin today? Is IVF morally acceptable?
To: maryz
That’s nice but that’s not good exegesis
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posted on
06/22/2016 2:37:48 PM PDT
by
imardmd1
(The LORD says: "I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire" Is. 54:16)
To: maryz
It’s exactly what I mean, and I do know what I am saying to you. Your assumption that it is not humanly genetic is not only wrong but perhaps misleading to the reader.
463
posted on
06/22/2016 2:40:58 PM PDT
by
imardmd1
(The LORD says: "I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire" Is. 54:16)
To: imardmd1
Thats nice but thats not good exegesis Huh? Strikes me as a linguistic question, not an exegeticsal one.
464
posted on
06/22/2016 2:45:00 PM PDT
by
maryz
(q)
To: maryz
The translators of the KJV are good enough for me, and so is Dr. Thomas Strouse, scholar of Hebrew and Greek who has done a very discerning paper on this. The Jews simply do not want you to pronounce this in their sanctimonious blindness. What makes you think that the choice of Adenoi was particular because of its vowel pronunciation which correctly belong to Yehovah? Cart and horse.
465
posted on
06/22/2016 2:47:20 PM PDT
by
imardmd1
(The LORD says: "I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire" Is. 54:16)
To: imardmd1
Did the DNA of this baby come from the host mother's egg(s)? No. But the baby is definitelu going to be human, the child of the source parents. How is that to the point? The baby still has no genetic material from the surrogate.
466
posted on
06/22/2016 2:48:24 PM PDT
by
maryz
(q)
To: imardmd1
The Jews simply do not want you to pronounce this in their sanctimonious blindness.
I guess you are anti-Semitic ... I'm sticking with my Jewish teachers on this one. Your "authorities aren't nearly good enough for me!
467
posted on
06/22/2016 2:54:24 PM PDT
by
maryz
To: FourtySeven; Mrs. Don-o
One more hint: the Bible tells us that Jesus could not sin because His seed remained within Him. That seed was the LIFE of God, the Holy Spirit, within the soul of Jesus the man. The Bible uses the word 'seed', the same word used in Genesis 3:15. The carnal mind sees the scene of Mary and the Angel, then Joseph and the Angel and assumes 'seed' in Genesis refers to a sex cell or sex cells. Can either of you two catholic apologists see a way that 'seed' used in both scenes might not be a sex cell or sex cells?
When God created Adam, He did so from the 'dust of the ground'. Yet Adam was a human being. We believe Jesus is a Human Being now glorified in an altered body and in Heaven in that physical body. He seed remained within Him only leaving His physical body upon death, a death He allowed as the single, most efficacious sacrifice for us and for all those who will receive new life by His Grace, stretching all the way back to Adam and forward to our day. HIS SEED is the great clue we ought not miss in this discussion.
468
posted on
06/22/2016 3:25:20 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
To: FourtySeven
Your pope is in disagreement with the rcc. That’s who your issue is with.
To: FourtySeven; Mrs. Don-o
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Paul was writing to Galatian converts to Christianity, not to Jews who would naturally claim to be of the seed of Abraham.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in im: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel." [What or who is referred to as the 'seed' of satan?]
470
posted on
06/22/2016 3:40:27 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
To: MHGinTN
471
posted on
06/22/2016 5:03:33 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: FourtySeven
Uh, I dunno, maybe because they reached their agreement AFTER her pregnancy was discovered? Ya think that might be a possibility?
Tell ya what.
You stop with the speculatin'; and most of the circularity will cease as well.
472
posted on
06/22/2016 5:08:42 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: maryz
You dont even have one syllogism. I hope you are dropping something less tasty than bread crumbs to create a return trail during your desert wanderings.
473
posted on
06/22/2016 5:10:37 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: maryz
You have no way of knowing that. And it is implicit in Gabriel's greeting.
How do YOU have a way of knowing what is implicit or not?
Rome's teaching.
The TEXT surely does NOT support Rome's position.
474
posted on
06/22/2016 5:11:52 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: FourtySeven
I will not respond to this post beyond what Ive written here because its insulting trash.We CERTAINLY don't want any of THAT to be found on the pages of FR!
475
posted on
06/22/2016 5:13:16 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: maryz
If you love the SW USA; then this is an EXCELLANT book!!
If you don't; well; it is STILL an excellent book!
476
posted on
06/22/2016 5:15:42 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
Why are SO many of you folks wasting your time specklatin' this topic; when the Book CLEARLY states:
John 6:63
The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing;
the words that I have spoken unto you, they are Spirit and they are life.
477
posted on
06/22/2016 5:18:44 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom
Scripture tells us that Joseph didnt know her until after Jesus was born.
HERETIC!!
478
posted on
06/22/2016 5:20:27 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom
...and theres absolutely nothing wrong with Mary having it and maybe even enjoying it.I hope you enjoy the BANNING that is being prepared for you!!
479
posted on
06/22/2016 5:21:32 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: FourtySeven
And; I have it from a good source; he had no belly button!
480
posted on
06/22/2016 5:23:44 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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