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Republicans to consider softening party's official language on LGBT (dropping Biblical marriage)
CBS News ^ | 7/9/16 | JACQUELINE ALEMANY

Posted on 07/10/2016 7:02:03 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

With the Republican National Convention less than two weeks away, moderate Republicans are drafting an amendment that would soften the GOP's official position on gays and lesbians, CBS News has learned.

The party's official stance on LGBT issues will be debated during next week's meeting of the RNC's platform committee, a 112-member group of Republican activists from around the country.

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Currently, the language adopted during the 2012 platform calls the "redefinition of marriage" by state courts an "assault on the foundations of society." It's unclear whether or not this language will be eliminated. But the compromise that some delegates are expecting is the addition of "equality language."

"Equality for all people," is how one member of the platform committee described the language to CBS News. "That would be a hard thing for Republicans not to vote for."

"The compromises are going to end up in the same place where it's pretty much been, just to keep the fighting at a minimum. But there are ways to say things that show we are a party that believes in fairness for all Americans," the delegate added.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes
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To: rstrahan
Bottom line is that with the SCOTUS ruling, the platform plank is useless.

SCOTUS refused to rule on the LEGALITY/ILLEGALITY of SLAVERY for many years, didn't they?

They (GOP Delegates/Platform) will throw out any ABORTION concerns why not MARRIAGE as defined by our Judeo/Christian Roots?

I smell those dang Cruz Delegates at it again./s

21 posted on 07/10/2016 7:37:05 PM PDT by corbe (mystified, still. But never hillary)
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To: rstrahan

Even if that’s the case, there is still much to be fought for in regards to it. By adopting any different language that “softens” the Republican stance (i.e., rejects the Biblical meanings of marriage and the two sexes), that means allowing churches to be forced to accept “gay marriage” and unrepentant people engaging in homosexual conduct, and reading of the Bible to be banned as “hate speech.” This might not only lead to churches losing their tax exemptions (a situation they shouldn’t even be in), but eventually to them being shut down and pastors and Christians who speak out being fined or threatened with prison. The secular humanists have the will to do all these things.


22 posted on 07/10/2016 7:39:14 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

It wont please anyone. Libs will say not enough, conservatives will say its a futile effort as it obviously wont do anything to get more votes and just piss,off the conservative base.

So of course they will do it. They are idiots.


23 posted on 07/10/2016 7:45:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Unparty 2016

We are for or against whatever keeps us in power, depending who we are talking to currently


24 posted on 07/10/2016 7:46:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Faith Presses On

If the GOP caves to the depraved homo lobby and jettisons support for marriage, the whole Party can go die in flames for all I care. Not that it would surprise me at this point.


25 posted on 07/10/2016 7:51:26 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Faith Presses On

Bopp has been the lead attorney for National Right to Life for decades. Their failed immoral, unconstitutional “and then you can kill the baby” regulatory strategy is in large degree attributable to him.

Four years ago, he was put in charge of the pro-life plank in the GOP platform. They didn’t touch the Declarationist, Fourteenth Amendment personhood Reagan plank, but they included a long list of regulatory exceptions that contradict the Reagan plank.

So, I’m not surprised to see him take the next big step into the abyss.


26 posted on 07/10/2016 8:02:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: All
And this:

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin wouldn't guarantee Saturday that the GOP will change its platform on abortion despite Donald Trump's stated desire to allow for exceptions in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.

"He will have representation -- he's going to be the presumptive Republican nominee -- and certainly he will have a voice with his people, who will make recommendations, too," Fallin said. "But in the end, this platform is driven by grassroots Republican people throughout the nation who will represent the very values and principles of the Republican Party."

Despite Trump pledge, Fallin won't guarantee platform changes on abortion
27 posted on 07/10/2016 8:06:30 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: EternalVigilance

See my post #27. There is also liberal pressure to weaken the party stance on abortion.


28 posted on 07/10/2016 8:09:16 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On; All
"Jim Bopp Jr., a conservative Indiana delegate on the platform, said the old platform language on same-sex marriage is no longer appropriate since last year's landmark Supreme Court ruling that allowed same-sex couples to marry nationwide."

With all due respect to Mr. Bopp, he is evidently a low-information conservative delegate who doesn’t understand that 10th Amendment-protected state powers trump politically correct “rights.”

Note that the amendments in the Bill of Rights (BoR) which expressly protect specific rights were ratified to the Constitution by the states, not the Supreme Court. So in order for gay marriage to become a constitutional right like the rights protected by the BoR, the states would likewise have to ratify an amendment expressly protecting gay “marriage.” But the states have never done so.

Also, the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment (10A) to clarify that the Constitution’s silence about things like marriage means that such issues are automatically and uniquely up to the individual states to decide, not the feds.

But the honest interpretation of the Constitution evidently wasn’t enough to stop pro-gay, state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices from stealing 10A state powers, and use those powers to wrongly legislate the political correct “right” to gay “marriage” from the bench, just as activist justices had previously done with the fictitious constitutional “right” to have an abortion.

29 posted on 07/10/2016 8:10:43 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Faith Presses On
There is also liberal pressure to weaken the party stance on abortion.

Doesn't matter what the platform says anyhow. They pay it no more mind than they do their oath to support and defend the Constitution.

30 posted on 07/10/2016 8:24:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

In a way, but it truly does matter, and it is far better than the alternative, the Democratic Party platform. Things would even be far worse.


31 posted on 07/10/2016 8:27:22 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

Cowards!


32 posted on 07/10/2016 8:30:16 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper).)
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To: Faith Presses On

Okay, if it matters, the GOP platform as it stands today is self-contradictory on abortion. On the one hand, it recognizes the God-given, unalienable nature of the individual right to life, and the child’s protection by the Fourteenth Amendment, while the sections which follow proceed to obliterate those principles.

The chances that they will cure this in Cleveland are virtually zero.


33 posted on 07/10/2016 8:30:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: greene66

GOP? Nahh.GAP. Go Along Paty.


34 posted on 07/10/2016 8:35:36 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide
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To: Faith Presses On; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
>> “This won’t change the core of the issue, “Jim Bopp Jr., told CBS News. He also said that adopting friendlier language toward gays and lesbians should not be perceived as a major concession by conservatives.” <<

We just went through this crap a few months ago at the state party level, when the RINOs on the platform committee tried to change the marriage plank from reading that the IL GOP believes "the ideal environment for children is within a two-parent family based on the principle of marriage between one man and one woman.” to reading that the IL GOP welcomes "a diversity of opinions within our party on the issue of marriage"

Their attempts to water down the platform to be more "Gay friendly" were rejected by nearly 80% of the delegates, and the 2012 text was reinstated at the general session.

Did Pat Brady change his name to "Jim Bopp Jr." and get on the national platform committee?

35 posted on 07/10/2016 8:54:54 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Faith Presses On; EternalVigilance; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
>> See my post #27. There is also liberal pressure to weaken the party stance on abortion. <<

There is no doubt that many of the rank and file GOP officials at the national convention will try to make the platform more "gay friendly" and squishy on abortion by adding ridiculous "exceptions" like "incest" that could be interpreted at anything.

The sad thing is that Ted Cruz warned this would happen months ago, and the "conservatives" on the thread at the time sneered at it and said he was an alarmist moron who "deserves a primary challenge" for saying he would fight to keep conservative principles intact.

36 posted on 07/10/2016 9:07:06 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Mr. Bopp and the National Right to Life Committee sold their souls decades ago to the GOP Establishment, the Republican Machine and the Corporatist elites behind it.

And the nation has moved incrementally in a more Pro-Death direction ever since........


37 posted on 07/10/2016 9:42:48 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Amendment10

MR. BOPP HAS BEEN INSIDE THE BELTWAY MANY YEARS AS GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE NATIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS HIS TICKET TO REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADERSHIP. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.


38 posted on 07/10/2016 9:45:08 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT; Clintonfatigued

Bopp, rhymes with Fop. I hope his faggy proposal is a flop.


39 posted on 07/10/2016 10:58:31 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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To: Faith Presses On

After Obergefell there shouldn’t be a platform plank on gay marriage unless it’s for a federal marriage amendment. It’s continued existence will just be an opportunity for bickering with no actual action indicated by the plank.


40 posted on 07/11/2016 2:57:05 AM PDT by SleepySimon
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