Posted on 08/30/2016 8:04:03 AM PDT by Salvation
False teaching always has a following. This also weakens the Church.
One might even call these 'eternal truths' the Gods of the Copybook Headings.
I was just talking about that yesterday. But I guessed it was Bob Dillon.
Is that who you meant by ‘Bobby’? If not who was it that sang that?
Can’t put a gun to people’s heads. All we can o is try.
And we’re up against 24/7 indoctrination.
God will do what God will do.
Let’s all make sure we’re personally ready.
Every little bit helps!
Yes, Bob Dylan.
Ahhh! You even corrected me on the spelling of his name.
I should have been more careful.
Thanks.
False teaching always has a following. This also weakens the Church.
If you came up with CI after 'diligent study', you best get back to the studying.
The beginning of wisdom for me was this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2240648/posts
Before that I simply believed what the church told me because, well, everybody KNOWS about hell and damnation, right?
Nope. I studied. I went to more sites. I studied some more. Now, I’m a member here: Rethinkinghell.com
I listen to the bible for two hours on my commute every day. Have been doing it for three years now. This is on top of the study I do (on this and other subjects) And CI is EVERYWHERE in the bible.
It is argued that as people actually start studying this subject in great numbers, more and people will come on board and it is expected to be the majority opinion in ten to 15 years. It used to be that people even asking the question were practically blackballed. It became the topic where “questions are forbidden”.
Not any more! And as more people ask, answers really are forthcoming
The evidence really is overwhelmingly in support of CI. It’s gotten almost comical. ECT adherents have an extremely limited number of “proof texts”, most of which actually support CI. And Edward Fudge nails it in “The Fire that Consumes”. VERY good book. This video is really good too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUPpmbTOV4
it is expected to be the majority opinion in ten to 15 years.
Doctrine by consensus, good stuff. The only opinion that matters has already spoken on it.
CI is ‘tickled ears’ doctrine, SDA in particular. It isn’t biblical.
I’m not SDA. I’m not JW. But I have actually read the bible and studied it. That is what actually brought me to CI. I’ve offered sources here. More and more people are getting their pastors to study it themselves. Once people are exposed to the full picture, minds are changed.
I’ve actually read papers and watched videos from all sides of this issue before solidifying my viewpoint. Have you? To not do so is, by definition, dogmatism.
It is also adherence to “the traditions of men”.
Nothing wrong with Biblical dogmatism. That would make it by definition not a tradition of man. CI is an effort to minimize the cost of sin and by extension minimize the Lord's sacrificial atonement for that sin. The Bible is plain as to the final place for those who have not believed. Same place as the Devil and his angels.
No sense in rehashing what I’ve argued on this subject for years. I’ve offered several links and a video.
But I do disagree with this comment strongly: “Nothing wrong with Biblical dogmatism.”
Dogmatism is the refusal to even look at evidence contrary to your own viewpoint. That is really not the high ground. When someone offers new teaching on old dogmas, searching the scripture is the high ground. This is why the Bereans were commended.
It is unbelief that the bible warns against; over and over.
While certain churches emphasize DOING things to KEEP your salvation; the bible doesn't.
Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
The Book does NOT say...
...but whoever does not GET BAPTIZED will be condemned.
There will come a time when sound doctrine men will up with not put!
Do you know of a 'nation' that has NO missionaries in it?
But; even BEFORE Algore's wonderful invention...
Acts 17:11
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
Jesus said...
John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
I wonder what happens to folks who are CONDEMNED?
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