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Of Dolphins and Man: The Vast Difference between Animals and Humans
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 09-14-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 09/15/2016 7:56:34 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: freepertoo

well, animals are spiritually/morally superior since they cannot sin
and don’t need “salvation” to go to Heaven

and animals don’t stab you in the back, either

and animals (dogs, cats, horsies) are at least ten times smarter than the 53% of America that voted for Obama


21 posted on 09/15/2016 12:42:49 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Now THAT I can’t argue with, LOL!


22 posted on 09/15/2016 12:46:35 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: faithhopecharity

You know, my cat used to torture the mice and birds he was going to eat before he killed them...just for fun (that’s why he’s now an indoor kitty). Sometimes dogs turn viciously on their owners, even when they’ve had nice homes. The whole world is tainted with sin — it’s just that animals are not held accountable before God because they are not in God’s image. I know what you’re saying about animals (I really do), but even they don’t get off the hook when it comes to nasty behavior.


23 posted on 09/15/2016 12:49:08 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: freepertoo

SMILE SMILE SMILE


24 posted on 09/15/2016 12:49:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: freepertoo

cats... I might agree with you... cats can be sorta mean at times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-tPERs_6aY


25 posted on 09/15/2016 12:54:40 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Interesting about your cat.

I had a Border Collie (Torey,RIP), who loved Classical Music. She had certain tunes that were her favorite (Bizet’s “Farandole”, Ravel’s “Bolero”, and the Love Chorus from Carl Orff’s “Carmina Burana”). It did not matter if I sang them, played them on an instrument, or played the cd, she would respond to the actual MELODY.

Once, she jumped over into the front seat of the car to listen when “Farandole” came on the radio.

Now, if Torey could have COMPOSED those tunes, it would have REALLY been weird.

And perhaps, it is that CREATIVE Spirit that puts us in the category of “being made in God’s Image”.


26 posted on 09/15/2016 1:04:15 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Salvation

I contend a lot of animals love better than most humans...


27 posted on 09/15/2016 1:10:09 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: faithhopecharity
dogs, cats, and horses... are at least as intelligent and soulful as humans, and more so in some ways

Bless your heart.

28 posted on 09/15/2016 1:13:07 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Karliner
Slightly off topic but it amazes me some acquaintances actually believe Great White sharks have feelings and won’t bite if you communicate. This a conversation in my church parking lot a couple months ago. Their brains are the size of a 5.56.

Hahahaha!

Great whites are eating machines, nothing more, nothing less. They don't need brains with teeth like that.

29 posted on 09/15/2016 1:15:50 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: faithhopecharity
i understand the theology. but the more time I spend with dogs, cats, and horses... the more I come to the realization that they are at least as intelligent and soulful as humans, and more so in some ways

you must be a female.

30 posted on 09/15/2016 1:23:26 PM PDT by bankwalker (Does a fish know that it's wet?)
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To: bankwalker

guess again
(you have 56 more sexes to choose from, according to Dear Leader Obammy)


31 posted on 09/15/2016 1:25:47 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: bankwalker

I hope you didn’t mean to imply that men are necessarily unfeeling brutes without any insight or discernment?


32 posted on 09/15/2016 1:27:29 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: freepertoo

I’ve never quite understood the debate, myself. Yes, human beings were and are special, created in the image of God, to have dominion over Creation. That is not a debatable point from scripture.

However, the lesser creatures have hope beyond pain, suffering and death, according to the Book of Romans. They were subjected to death due to the actions of man, not due to any sin of their own. There is ample scriptural support for animals having a spirit, man is even chastised for believing that only his spirit goes up while the spirit of the beast goes down into the ground.

So, they’ll be there. I don’t have to lean on some sweet, modern Rainbow Bridge poem to believe that. It’s there, in the Bible.


33 posted on 09/15/2016 1:36:08 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: cloudmountain

It is laughable but these people are serious. I’m considering a one way ticket to the Farallon Islands or maybe a hot first date with a Polar bear. They have to be watching to many Discovery Channel fiction shows.


34 posted on 09/15/2016 1:49:54 PM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: All

Bad old joke, cats will be in heaven. They need em for the harp stings. I’ll be leaving or banned now.


35 posted on 09/15/2016 1:52:36 PM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: Salvation

Which one is the protected species in the U.S./U.N.?

36 posted on 09/15/2016 2:32:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: left that other site

Yes, I totally agree that humankind is the epitome of God’s creation here on Earth (praise God!); I was just taking up for the amazing abilities of our pet friends. That’s really special about your cat responding to music in very precise ways. I never noticed mine liking a particular composition, just a particular type of music.

As for my cat responding to prayers, I think humans emit alpha waves during those times, and cats (and probably dogs, too) can pick up on those non-verbal “vibes”. A former cat of mine was like radar when it came to people who were not good to be around. Dogs are known for that, but some cats can do it, too.

What I have found over the many years of a succession of cats and dogs, is that they have unique personalities and have distinct capabilities one from another.


37 posted on 09/15/2016 4:06:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. (standing ovation) --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Yes...I have had 4 dogs, and ALL different personalities.

I believe that cat owners could say the same.

I am a Believer in Christ, and have no problem believing in Special Creation and Intelligent Design, and I truly believe that God put special creatures here for our companionship.


38 posted on 09/15/2016 4:49:59 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree, except that I believe that animals have a soul, which we also have. Those saved by Christ have a spirit that is made alive by the Holy Spirit when we believe. This is the element that makes us unique, and which I believe animals lack. That having been said, God can do anything He wishes to do. I believe our animal companions will be there. I’ve often wondered if every single sacrificial animal went straight to the Lord.


39 posted on 09/15/2016 5:29:22 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Salvation

Good post, but why are humans different? Because we have spiritual (and thus immortal) souls which have the power of abstraction, can deal with abstract concepts, and do so all the time with our symbolic languages, so that we don’t even notice it. Animals have material (therefore mortal) souls which can only deal with concrete material objects (material in the general sense, including anything the physical sciences can measure, such as electromagnetic radiation.) This distinction is in the Creed: I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible (or seen and unseen etc., depending on the translation.) Visible vs. invisible; material vs. spiritual; temporal vs. eternal; mortal vs. immortal...


40 posted on 09/15/2016 6:49:16 PM PDT by DumbestOx ("Where is everybody?" - Enrico Fermi, 1950)
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