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Why Was Jesus Born When and Where He Was?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 12-22-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 12/23/2016 7:45:30 AM PST by Salvation

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To: raygunfan
i know, amazing, but that’s one of the ‘advantages’ of being a protestant of any stripe, you have no authority except the bible, so you can make it say anything you need it to say to support your version (the only true correct version according to each individual) of the teachings of Christ....the heck with the actual history of what happened, and who was there and witnessed it, and the handed on teaching from them.....cant have that...just need me, the bible and the holy spirit....says everyone of the 1000’s of competing ‘bible believing’ churches....

comical coming from a catholic.

41 posted on 12/23/2016 6:21:34 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!

What a kick to see how catholics elevate people with false titles.

Every believer in Christ is a SAINT!

42 posted on 12/23/2016 6:27:18 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas


43 posted on 12/23/2016 6:47:59 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; raygunfan
What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!

As a Catholic Thomas believed that God is the "maker of heaven and earth, of all that is visible and invisible."

Like Aristotle, Thomas posited that life could form from non-living material or plant life, a theory of ongoing abiogenesis known as spontaneous generation:

Since the generation of one thing is the corruption of another, it was not incompatible with the first formation of things, that from the corruption of the less perfect the more perfect should be generated. Hence animals generated from the corruption of inanimate things, or of plants, may have been generated then.[105

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas#Criticism_of_Aquinas_as_philosopher

Yeah, it's a hoot to see who argues against Aquinas...or more importantly who Aquinas argues against.

No wonder catholics have a problem with Genesis.

20Then God said, “Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.” 21God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 22God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.

24Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind”; and it was so. 25God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.

26Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Genesis 1:20-27

There is no spontaneous generation. That's a position of the Left...not Christianity.

44 posted on 12/23/2016 6:53:23 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation

See my next post on Aquinas.


45 posted on 12/23/2016 6:53:51 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
What a kick to see these people arguing with SAINT Thomas Aquinas!

Thomas believed that the existence of God is self-evident in itself, but not to us. "Therefore I say that this proposition, "God exists", of itself is self-evident, for the predicate is the same as the subject.... Now because we do not know the essence of God, the proposition is not self-evident to us; but needs to be demonstrated by things that are more known to us, though less known in their nature—namely, by effects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas#Criticism_of_Aquinas_as_philosopher

Aquinas did not think the finite human mind could know what God is directly, therefore God's existence is not self-evident to us.[2] In other words, he rejected Anselm's ontological argument. So instead we must infer God's existence indirectly, from his effects which are more known to us.[3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ways_(Aquinas)

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. Romans 1:18-20 NASB

He did read the Word....right??

46 posted on 12/23/2016 7:04:29 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Biggirl

Not everything that Armstrong said was true. But that does not negate the roots of Xmas whatsoever.

The number of articles about the unGodly origins of Xmas are so numerous that should you get on Google and start typing “pagan origins”, it will autocomplete “of Christmas”.

Even secular web sites have authoritative articles on the subject. For example, this from LiveScience.com:

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Pagan Roots? 5 Surprising Facts About Christmas

When you rip open presents this Christmas, you’re taking part in traditions, some pagan, that stretch back thousands of years.
Credit: Monkey Business Images, Shutterstock
When you gather around the Christmas tree or stuff goodies into a stocking, you’re taking part in traditions that stretch back thousands of years — long before Christianity entered the mix.

Pagan, or non-Christian, traditions show up in this beloved winter holiday, a consequence of early church leaders melding Jesus’ nativity celebration with pre-existing midwinter festivals. Since then, Christmas traditions have warped over time, arriving at their current state a little more than a century ago.

Read on for some of the surprising origins of Christmas cheer, and find out why Christmas was once banned in New England.

1. Early Christians had a soft spot for pagans

It’s a mistake to say that our modern Christmas traditions come directly from pre-Christian paganism, said Ronald Hutton, a historian at Bristol University in the United Kingdom. However, he said, you’d be equally wrong to believe that Christmas is a modern phenomenon. As Christians spread their religion into Europe in the first centuries A.D., they ran into people living by a variety of local and regional religious creeds.

Christian missionaries lumped all of these people together under the umbrella term “pagan,” said Philip Shaw, who researches early Germanic languages and Old English at Leicester University in the U.K. The term is related to the Latin word meaning “field,” Shaw told LiveScience. The lingual link makes sense, he said, because early European Christianity was an urban phenomenon, while paganism persisted longer in rustic areas.

Early Christians wanted to convert pagans, Shaw said, but they were also fascinated by their traditions.

“Christians of that period are quite interested in paganism,” he said. “It’s obviously something they think is a bad thing, but it’s also something they think is worth remembering. It’s what their ancestors did.” [In Photos: Early Christian Rome]

Perhaps that’s why pagan traditions remained even as Christianity took hold. The Christmas tree is a 17th-century German invention, University of Bristol’s Hutton told LiveScience, but it clearly derives from the pagan practice of bringing greenery indoors to decorate in midwinter....
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http://www.livescience.com/25779-christmas-traditions-history-paganism.html

Armstrong only was one the most prolific authors and broadcasters at the time to tell the truth about Xmas.


47 posted on 12/24/2016 5:23:14 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

That is why I reject that false teacher’s teachings as simply one person’s.

A good and blessed Merry Christmas!


48 posted on 12/24/2016 7:35:21 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: theBuckwheat

Correction, one person’s opinion.


49 posted on 12/24/2016 7:36:29 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: theBuckwheat

That is why such practices simply are grafted in.


50 posted on 12/24/2016 7:38:58 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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