Posted on 01/08/2017 3:45:19 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
The Prefect of the Doctrine of the Faith interviewed by Tgcom24: "At this moment it is not possible, there is no danger to the faith. I did not like the publication of dubia "
On the issue of "dubia" expressed by the four cardinal exhortation "Amoris laetitia" intervenes again the Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, saying that" at this time can not be tilted to the Pope because there 'it is no danger to the faith. " The cardinal, the Vatican correspondent interviewed by Tgcom24, Fabio Marchese Aragon part of the show, "the Vatican Stanze," also expressed its disagreement with the publication of "dubia".
As you recall, just over a month after presenting five "dubia" -- questions on the interpretation of "Amoris laetitia" on the question of the sacraments for divorced in second union presented according to the technical way of clarification requests to the Congregation for the doctrine of the faith -- the four cardinal signatories, Walter Brandmüller, Raymond Leo Burke, Carlo Caffara and Joachim Meisner, have decided to make them public by publishing them in the media. The publication took place a few days before the consistory of October. In the weeks following the Cardinal Burke has repeatedly talked about a possible and imminent "formal correction" of the Pope, in the event of no response. Interviewed by Vatican Insider, the Brandmüller Cardinal stated that this correction would take place in the first instance "Room Caritatis" and therefore would not be public.
Now the Prefect of the Doctrine of the Faith, seems to dismiss the hypothesis of "correction." "Everyone," said Müller to Tgcom24, "above all the cardinals of the Roman Church, have the right to write a letter to the Pope. I was surprised because this has become public, however, almost forcing the Pope to say yes or no. I do not like. Even a possible fraternal correction of the Pope," he continued, "it seems very far away, it is not possible at this time because it is not a danger to the faith as St. Thomas said. "
The Prefect of the former Holy Office added: "We are very far from a correction, and I say that is a loss to the Church to discuss these things publicly. 'Amoris Laetitia' is very clear in its doctrine and we can interpret the whole doctrine of Jesus on marriage, the whole doctrine of the Church in 2000 years of history." Pope Francis, the cardinal concluded, "asks to discern the situation of these people who live a union does not regulate, that is not according to the Church's teaching on marriage, and asks you to help these people find a way to a new integration in Church under the conditions of the sacraments, the Christian message about marriage. But I do not see any opposition: on the one hand we have the clear teaching on marriage, on the other the obligation of the Church to worry about these people in difficulty."
Not much difference in the catholic church hierarchy and politics. Pretty much the same thing. Actually catholic church is a lot like communist...you have to be in the party to be elected pope.
It’s not really up to Mueller to speak for the four Cardinals, especially when Mueller, himself, refuses to address the dubia.
Catholics who are anti-Francis but love Putin.
Excerpt: Journey to the world of Francis’ opponents, where regionalists, Ratzinger nostalgics and enemies of the Council are joined by a common disapproval of the current Pope: “There is chaos in the Church because of the Pope”
As for Muller, it's been obvious for quite some time that he wants none of this confrontation.
Cardinal Müller: Amoris Laetitia is in line with previous teaching on Communion
Very disappointing
You bet it’s a direct contradiction to Scripture. The Pope is positioning himself, it seems, as being beyond correction and therefore (paradoxically) detached and floating outside of the Apostolic Tradition.
The main opponent of the historic Papal Magisterium turns out to be.... the pope.
As for Cardinal Muller: I’d expected better from him. This is very disappointing.
Those of us who want to keep life simple would very much like to see yes/no answers to each of the five questions. More time and thousands of words have been written with many explanations of why the questions cannot or will not be answered.
Confusion and doubts remain in spite of the thousands of words. Why not just humbly answer the questions yes or no?
Where have you gone, Girolamo Savonarola?
Excellent point. Answering these precise and respectfully-submitted questions is the Pope’s job. Literally, for Christ’s sake.
BTW, the answers are: no, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Muller comes and goes, but now I think he’s gone...entirely.
I think Francis has moved beyond False Prophet (who, in my opinion, was Luther, following in the footsteps of Mohammed). to possibly being the one heralded by the false prophet. Aka, the Antichrist.
Bergoglio thinks he has brought in an entirely new creation and everything starts from 2013. Nobody has stopped Francis or even resisted him very effectively, and Muller’s few bleats of orthodoxy have been ignored and he’s not even going to attempt it anymore.
I have no iidea whatt’s going to happen next.
Cdl. Muller, is it OK to rob a bank? Answer: no. - but maybe yes …
What if the robber is a good person who is unable to suppress his urges
or has custody and care of persons who need his support
or has an urgent personal need for lifesaving medicine
or the bank exists to dispense money, so why not?
Just for the record: The answer to your last question is: The Pope wants chaos, because from the chaos will come the practice he wants: Communion for people engaging in manifest grave sin—i.e., fornicators, adulterers, sodomites, abortionists.
The bishops have been giving Communion to such people for decades—especially abortionists. The loudest proponent of Communion-for-abortionists is Donald Wuerl, and only about ten American bishops have resisted.
The Pope refuses to answer the dubia because he is a heretic and does not want clarity. If he gave the correct answers, he would destroy his own project, which is the destruction of the Catholic Church.
The only reason I have any doubt that Bergoglio is the anti-Christ is that he’s such a slovenly mediocrity. But then, he impresses an awful lot of people I would never have expected him to fool. They think he’s the bee’s knees.
I have always figured the anti-Christ would be someone so brilliant and accomplished and attractive that I would be impressed by him (if he came during my lifetime). Bergoglio is stupid, practically monolingual, fat, visibly nasty, transparently vindictive. The political program he offers is Planned Parenthoodism, stupid socialism, and Muslim conquest. Nothing attractive or beguiling except to morons.
I’ll make a prediction.
There will not be a “correction” in the sense that Bergoglio will refuse to have any private meeting with the Four Cardinals or any one of them. No “camera caritatis.”
They will wait a certain amount of time, and then publish the correct answers to the dubia (no, yes, yes, yes, yes) with some additional comments.
Then, the hierarchy around the world will make their choice.
My gut tells me that, thanks mainly to Saint John Paul II’s putrid episcopal appointments, at most one-third of the bishops will remain Catholic. In the U.S., about fifteen bishops will remain Catholic. The rest will become Bergoglians.
I think your scenario above is very likely.
As for Bergoglio, I think he’s a great example of the banality of evil.
And we're done here with him. A coward indeed -- it was better when he was silent. While AL is clear on certain matters, to say as a blanket statement ignores the fact that the dubia point out the places where it either 1) needs clarification or 2) is erroneous.
This does allow the Four Cardinals (five if you count Cardinal Napier's sixth dubium concerning why it seems serial polygamy is tolerated while concurrent polygamy is not) to know where the CDF stands. They know the Holy Office is lost and they won't be getting any help from it. These are dangerous times.
So you don’t have a problem with selling indulgences?
You believe that God’s grace can be bought with money?
Don’t see why you have such a problem with Pope Frankie then. If you’re going to treat God’s grace so cheaply, why not throw God’s law on the pile too?
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