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REPORT: Women Deaconesses Coming in November
TradCatKnight ^ | February 14, 2017 | TradCatKnight

Posted on 02/15/2017 2:51:48 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

SOURCE
Loosely translated from the original Italian

Drafts Part III: the big "renovations" of Bergoglio "Fra Cristoforo

I'll tell you a story. Last Thursday, in one of the Bar present in front of the Porta S. Anna (front of the Vatican State), go out for coffee a Monsignor (very near Bergoglio), in his fifties, and a layman.

The discussion falls on "dubia". The Monsignor, with making "sufficient" says: "The Pope will never answer to" dubia "of the 4 cardinal. [He] will never fall to their level. Francis has much bigger projects, which do not stop Italy. The only hitch in this period was the election of Trump ".

To the layman he responded: "And what does Trump with the Amoris Laetitia?". "Got to do and how," he replied the Monsignor, continuing: "The intent was to support Clinton because with Francesco have a special relationship. Often they feel. And the goal to be reached was that the Catholic Church should have some clear principles of "non-negotiable", so soft, so that even the Vatican had a strong global political support, which in this time of need, especially for large maneuvers that will come. "

On this we must give an account to the great Assange..read here: (Http://formiche.net/2016/10/21/clinton-podesta-papa-francesco/)....

The increasingly secular amazed: "And such maneuvers must arrive"? The Monsignor sips the last drop of coffee and says, "but you have not yet realized that the vision that you have of the Church is outdated? Do not you understand that the Pope today is a world leader? That if he stayed Ratzinger we all failed. Do you know what the next maneuver? Just the diaconate to women. Because it is the only way to show our concrete closeness to the Lutherans and Anglicans. And you'll see that by November we will also have the diaconate to women. Maybe not equal to what you think. But it will approach a lot. " "WITHIN November".

Here it is. So. Papal what was said by Monsignor of S.d.S. (Secretary of State), in a "state" confidential.

Now we pause to reflect. Piazza San Pietro is almost always empty (and TV in 2000 still frames that group of people massed in front of the window). What does it matter to Bergoglio of the faithful? From the content of this conversation it shows that the Argentine has far broader evangelization projects. Often he said that evangelization is a form of proselytism that is not good. Recently also he said that he cares if some congregations there are many vocations.

Here it is. He seeks only himself. Try to concentrate on if the spotlight, and not step on the streets to anyone because he is the LEADER. And of Jesus Christ it does not matter a damn. Other than St. Paul. The Apostle of the Gentiles said "We are considered the garbage of the world" (1 Cor 4.9 to 13). Just because he put evangelization first. Instead Bergoglio at the expense of Christ and the salvation of souls, you want him in the first place. Dear readers, this is the reality. And this week there will be more terrifying news. But I leave the earlier press releases.

The sense of my anonymity is just that. I am a priest, but I HAVE to stay anonymous. Otherwise I would not have any chance to write these things. I've thought a lot in recent months. But still I can not "come out" publicly. However, I consider important that the faithful "know" the dynamics that evolve in the See of Peter. And these discussions as "bar" for me are extremely relevant. And in conscience, to communicate.

Fr. Cristoforo


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Theology; Worship
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And this week there will be more terrifying news.

People are guessing an announcement of Vatican III.

1 posted on 02/15/2017 2:51:48 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

To: BlessedBeGod

“Do not you understand that the Pope today is a world leader?”

Nonsense; this world would be very different if this was the case. The Church may be growing in parts of the world, but it has practically ceased to exist in much of the West. Everybody has a story of some vibrant parish or chapel somewhere or other, but when you see how few baptisms and marriages take place in your average American parish you realize the heyday is quickly drawing to a close. The pace at which parishes are closing is picking up; there are too few priests and too few parishioners....


2 posted on 02/15/2017 3:53:00 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)

To: BlessedBeGod

TradCatKnight is a wing nut. I would no more listen to him about the Church than I would listen to Obama about politics.


3 posted on 02/15/2017 4:21:28 AM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)

To: kearnyirish2
“Do not you understand that the Pope today is a world leader?”

I think what he meant to say is that the Pope today is a worldly leader. "Whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God" James 4.4

4 posted on 02/15/2017 4:41:52 AM PST by circlecity

To: BlessedBeGod

Women ordained, the prayer book modernized, gays embraced, adultery sanctioned....we saw it happen in the Episcopal church...a church that only resides now in fond and warm memories. (The organization it has morphed into is not the Episcopal church). Liberals move into the pew beside you and your most sacred institutions are jeopardized. This is the death nel of the Catholic Church. The bell is tolling, and a false and liberal pope is pulling the bell rope. The organization will continue, but the church? Soon only to be a fond memory.


5 posted on 02/15/2017 5:08:01 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We got more than we voted for!)

To: BlessedBeGod

Mussolini was style as “Il Duce”, “The Leader”

Francisco Franco was the fascist dictator of Spain.

So how about calling Francis “Il Franco”?

The Jesuit Order, from which Francis arose, bears the slogan, “Whoever desires to serve as a soldier of God” (Spanish: “Todo el que quiera militar para Dios”).

This needs to be changed as well to “Todo el que quiera militar para socialismo.”

“Whoever desires to serve as a soldier of socialism.”

Teología de la liberación fascista.


6 posted on 02/15/2017 5:20:28 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)

To: CatQuilt

“TradCatKnight is a wing nut. I would no more listen to him about the Church than I would listen to Obama about politics.”

You get it. So few Catholics at FR do these days.


7 posted on 02/15/2017 6:02:37 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)

To: BlessedBeGod

Please add me to your ping list, thank you!

ragmop


8 posted on 02/15/2017 6:11:10 AM PST by ragmop

To: BlessedBeGod

Wow! I just took a look at this guys website and I have to agree with some of the other comments above. This guy is a fringe crackpot and I would not consider the website a reliable source for the weather report.


9 posted on 02/15/2017 7:26:03 AM PST by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)

To: BlessedBeGod

Christ chose only men. There will be no women deacons.


10 posted on 02/15/2017 9:16:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)

To: CatQuilt

I would no more listen to him about the Church than I would listen to Obama about politics.

just curious...to whom would you listen...?


11 posted on 02/15/2017 9:18:28 AM PST by IrishBrigade

To: Salvation

There will be no women deacons.

just fifty years ago the Episcopalians said the same thing...


12 posted on 02/15/2017 9:20:44 AM PST by IrishBrigade

To: Salvation

Well, notice it says “deaconesses.” They could “triangulate” by having non-ordained “deaconesses” that are completely unrelated to ordained deacons.

Not a good thing, regardless, as it will cause confusion. But that’s what this pontificate seems to like to do.


13 posted on 02/15/2017 1:11:05 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)

To: circlecity

That’s a good quote, and very fitting; he seems to think he can be more relevant by dropping any structure at all.


14 posted on 02/16/2017 4:20:04 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)

To: B Knotts

I thought the “deaconesses” were those ladies distributing Communion...


15 posted on 02/16/2017 4:23:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)

To: IrishBrigade
I don't watch youtube stuff very often but I do enjoy Father Rippenger. His sermons and conferences are posted on youtube by this person. The Remnant Newspaper, Michael Matt, is good too for current church events.
16 posted on 02/17/2017 4:05:31 AM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)

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