Posted on 04/26/2017 2:52:31 AM PDT by NYer
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I don’t know if coins were used in the Jewish burial rites at the time. Perhaps some FReeper could chip in.
The technology expended on this shroud is telling. A grasping world searching for a tangible link to the intangible. This shroud is too another icon that needs to be put away while we, should search out our hearts for the Spirit that can dwell within each and every one of us.
The technology expended on this shroud is telling. A grasping world searching for a tangible link to the intangible. This shroud is too another icon that needs to be put away while we, should search out our hearts for the Spirit that can dwell within each and every one of us.
Notice the word hypothesis.
Palestine? There was no “Palestine” at the time of Jesus.
So the coins date to 29 CE? Hmmmm.... Please ignore the carbon 14 testing which dates the actual shroud to 12601390 CE.
So silly...
Additionally, nobody has come up with a viable explanation for how an artist in the 13th century came up with a method to impress an anatomically perfect image of a crucified man onto the cloth. It's not painted on.
“New test dates Shroud of Turin to era of Christ”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/30/shroud-turin-display/2038295/
” . This shroud is too another icon that needs to be put away”
I agree somewhat, however
“And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.” John 20:7
Our Lord and the Holy Spirit had some reason for recording this fact for us, as a witness. The more I come to understand about Gods Holy Word, the more I realise there are no frivolous details recorded, every word, every place, name and activity is included for a reason.
Lots of conjecture here, but IF this reference in John Chapter 20 could be the Sudarium of Oviedo and it has any linkage back to the Shroud of Turin? it would push the date for the Shroud back to the 7th Century,
We could never directly prove the Shroud was the burial cloth for Jesus, however for anyone looking there is much to consider here, whatever it is, it does not appear to be a fake (relic) burial cloth.
There were issues with that dating test, the shroud has many open questions concerning it’s origins.
These people are merely trying to answer them.
“Palestine? There was no Palestine at the time of Jesus.”
The State of Palestine is a modern creation.
The region of Palestine has been called such since ancient times, including the time of Jesus.
Thousands have tried to recreate the shroud and its image, none successfully. That should tell you something.
I never did understand what the big deal was with this shroud anyway. If it’s a fake, so what? That doesn’t change the fact that Jesus was crucified and resurrected. That’s what’s important, not whether or not some piece of cloth covered Jesus’ head after He died.
Even for an atheist, I can’t see the significance. Except for the Resurrection and the miracles Jesus performed, the Gospels are consistent with atheism. That is, there was an influential religious teacher who preached in the Roman province of Judea. He ran afoul of the Jewish religious leaders who conspired with Roman authorities to have Jesus of Nazareth crucified. Presumably Jesus would have been buried in accord with local custom, which includes a burial shroud. Finding that shroud does not constitute evidence that Jesus was anything other than human.
In short, whether fake or not, why does it really matter? Nobody’s beliefs are challenged by it one way or another.
The Emperor Hadrian made the word Palestine up in 100 AD. It was based in the name Philistines, the ancient adversaries of the Jews. To further infuriate them.
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