The Celestial C-Section: A Defense Of The Revelation 12 Sign

Unsealed World News ^ | May 5, 2017 | Gary

[HLPhat]

And in other news...

I forget. What does the Word say about Astrological frauds?

[veracious]

Jaco says the sign did occur once before. He said 3,918 years ago, some time ago; I haven’t spent a bunch of time, but this appears to be the same year Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. If so the nature of the sign would likely be more about the arrival/revealing of the anti. The anti is actually the alternative Yeshua, the pretender.

The pattern of scripture is that the evil are taken out/away, not His people. They are protected in the coming time of trouble, if they are in full covenant with Him. I.e., those who, per Revelation: keep the commandments of YHVH _and_ have the testimony of Yeshua. Salvation is not enough; it is just the start of an eternal life. Walk the way of YHVH.

I agree that the sign of Yom Teruah, 3BC, was the sign of Yeshua’s birth. HalleluYah!

[SubMareener]

The key is in a proper dividing of Daniel 12:11-12.

Daniel 12
8 Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, “My lord, what shall be the end of these things?”
9 And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 “Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.
13 “But you, go your way till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days.”

Nelson, Thomas. Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 875). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

The words in italics were added by the translators, verse 11 reads: “And from the time the daily is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, one thousand two hundred and ninety days." So 1260+30 days after "the daily" is taken away, the anti-Christ will set up the abomination of desolation, and we know that that is 1260 from the start of Daniel's 70th week and 1260 days from the end.

So what is "the daily" that will be "taken away"? Well, it is certainly not the daily sacrifices that the Jews will present in the Third Temple, because that is what the anti-Christ will do at the midpoint. So who offers themselves as "living sacrifices" (Romans 12:1) and asks for "daily bread" (Matthew 6:11) but those who believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior and LORD?

Luke 21:36 “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Nelson, Thomas. Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1023). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

So, if I am still here in October, 2017, it will be because I was not "found worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass." How about you?

Here is the schedule of coming events. Get ready!

If this doesn't happen, then these dates have all been one big coincidence:

1. Only 2 remaining unfulfilled feasts, Trumpets & Atonement are fulfilled in exact correlation to the number of days given Daniel by the angel Gabriel.
2. Our timeline BEGINS EXACTLY on the beginning of the new Jewish year 5778.
3. 5778/Rosh Hoshana/Feast of Trumpets/Revelation 12 Sign Alignment/Jesus Birth Month.
4. 30 DAY GAP/New Moon again. /Tribulation Begins.
5. Midpoint Passover/AOD/IS THE HISTORIC Crucifixion Date of Jesus Christ.
6. 3.5 years from 1st blood moon 4/15/14 to beginning of trib on the timeline.
7. 7 years (-14 days) 1st blood moon to trib midpoint on the timeline.
8. 10 years from the second blood moon to the Blessed Day Kingdom Age on the timeline.
9. 10 years from first blood moon 4/15/14 to 9/13/24 (Atonement/ 2nd coming) on the timeline.
10. 11/29/47 UN Partitions Palestine to 11/27/2024 on our timeline = 77 years exact.
11. 7 years EXACTLY TO THE DAY from when Jupiter exits the womb of Virgo, to the Second Coming of Christ on our Alpha to Omega Timeline.
12. From the Blood Moon on Feast of Trumpets Sept 13,2015 to Sept 13, 2024 (Second Coming date on our Alpha to Omega Timeline) 9 Years Exact.
13. Exactly 1335 days from Sept 21, 2017 to Pentecost 2021.
14. Balfour Declaration Nov 2 1917 to 10/20/17 (trib begins) on our timeline is 12 days short of 100 yrs exact.
15. 8/21 2017 solar eclipse to the beginning of the tribulation 9/ 20/17 on our timeline: 60 days.
16. Beginning of timeline September 21, 2017 to 2nd Day of Tabernacles 9/21/2024: 7 years exact.
17. Eclipse August 21, 2017 forward 33 days to the Rev 12 Sign.
18. 40 days from the Aug 21, 2017 eclipse to Atonement.
19. Beginning of year 5778 9/21 2017 to the exact time of the Rev 12 Sign alignment = 40 hours.
20. Jesus returns to establish His Kingdom ON THE VERY DAY of the anniversary of which the UN broke ground to establish THEIRS. September 14, 1948.

[xone]

So, if I am still here in October, 2017, it will be because I was not "found worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass." How about you?

Then what metric is used to establish 'worthiness'?

[dartuser]

Then what metric is used to establish 'worthiness'?

Doesn't matter ... the whole teaching destroys the unity of the true church.

Their rapture will be on Sept. 21, 2017 ...

If it doesnt happen ... they will go back to the drawing board and recompute ... because the essence of the method is not Biblical ... its astrological.

[HLPhat]

>> if I am still here in October, 2017, it will be because I was not "found worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass." How about you?

Mark 13:32-33

32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Be on guard! Be alert!f You do not know when that time will come. 3

 

THE ~~END TIMES"

A Study on Eschatology and Millennialism A Report of the Commission on Theology and Church Relations of The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod September 1989

...Second, the signs of the end are not intended to provide Christians a means by which they may calculate the exact time of Christ's second coming.24 In fact, the New Testament warns against all such efforts at date setting (Matt. 24:36; Mark 13:32; 1 Thess. 5:1-3; 2 Pet. 3:10). The signs of the end presented in Scripture assure the Christian that Christ will surely return...

https://www.lcms.org/Document.fdoc?src=lcm&id=417

 

[xone]

If it doesnt happen ... they will go back to the drawing board and recompute ... because the essence of the method is not Biblical ... its astrological.

I agree, but would like to see in writing their definition of 'worthy' and how it is attained. As for the calendar, have they forwarded that to Jesus so He can get in the loop?

[SubMareener]

That is the exact description of the timing of the sounding of the Last Trumpet on the Feast of Trumpets. It also applies to the Groom’s arrival for the Jewish Wedding Feast. But one has to have eyes to see.

[dartuser]

The Old Testament was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic, but was later translated into the Greek version we now know as the Septuagint. The Septuagint does contain a few errors because it is only a translation of the original text. This exact same error with huion arsen is contained in the Septuagint's version of Isaiah 66 and it just so happens that the topic at hand in Isaiah 66 is the same as Revelation 12: a woman in labor (Zion or Israel per the text) giving birth to a male child. However, in Isaiah 66 the male child is a corporate entity, not an individual. A nation. Since the text tells us plainly that the woman is Zion, it would seem evident she is not giving birth to herself. There may be parallels here to the rebirth of Israel in 1948, but I believe the nation she gives birth to is the Church. In 1 Peter 2:9 the Church is called a holy nation.

So to interpret Rev. 12, we need to go back to Isaiah 66 ... but then we have to go forward again to 1 Peter 2.

I would say hermeneutics is not this theories strong point.

[HLPhat]

But one has to have eyes to see.

Mark 13:32-33

32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Be on guard! Be alert!f You do not know when that time will come. 3

 

I can see what Jesus said.

YMMV!

[Excellence]

I’m going to have on hell of a birthday party.

[Mrs.Z]

Thank you for the post.

I know that you will get all kinds of nasty replies, but some will appreciate your efforts.

Personally, I am looking for our “blessed hope” at any time.

[SubMareener]

Yeah, well just keep plenty of extra oil for you lamp. Don’t want to have to go get some more when he does come.

Matthew 25
1 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
2 “Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 “Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them,
4 “but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 “But while the bridegroom was delayed, †they all slumbered and slept.
6 “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’
7 “Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps.
8 “And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’
9 “But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’
10 “And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’
12 “But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’
13 “Watch therefore, for you †know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

Nelson, Thomas. Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (pp. 963-964). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

[Boogieman]

“If it doesnt happen ... they will go back to the drawing board and recompute ... because the essence of the method is not Biblical ... its astrological.”

Bingo. This has happened time and time again, and the predictions always fail, and a few years later someone is back with another hare brained “theory”.

When the time of the end truly arrives, there will be no mistaking the signs, and all you will need to recognize them is a decent knowledge of the Bible, not astrology.

[Boogieman]

“But one has to have eyes to see”

When the date rolls around and nothing happens, will you get your eyes checked?

[Ezekiel]

Secondly, William Miller, Ellen White, Edgar Whisenant, and Harold Camping all had one significant thing in common that Richardson and others are overlooking: they were individuals presenting a private interpretation of prophecy (see 2 Peter 1:20). They had many followers, but no peer review - in fact what peers they had were telling them they were off their rockers.

Or, how true prophets are confused with the crackpots -- they all seemingly 'look alike' for lack of peer review:

1 Kings 18

21. And Elijah came to all the people, and said, How long will you hobble between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him; And the people answered him not a word:
22. Then said Elijah to the people, I am the only remaining prophet of the Lord; but Baal's prophets are four hundred and fifty men:

Consensus and approved peer review do not determine truth. Elijah was the lone nut of his day, spewing 'private interpretation'.

Consider that even after years and years of study you might know less than you think.

2 Peter 1

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 3

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Rashi (Gen 1:2)

and the spirit of God was hovering: The Throne of Glory was suspended in the air and hovered over the face of the water with the breath of the mouth of the Holy One, blessed be He and with His word, like a dove, which hovers over the nest, acoveter in Old French, to cover, hover over.

Columbia = dove = Jonah

Doves, usually white in color, are used in a variety of settings as symbols of love, peace or as messengers.

"Columbia" is a historical name used by both Europeans and Americans to describe the Americas, the United States of America, and, more generally, the New World . It is also a name given to the "Spirit of the Frontier" of which was used to illustrate Manifest Destiny among several other American political causes.

The Spirit of the Frontier descending into the Pacific Ocean:

Revelation 1201 and 1202

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Twelve men have stood on the moon. All Americans.

Troubleshooting 101 (1201 actually, and 1202 too)

[dartuser]

Tuesday, February 05, 2013 ...

Gary predicts is his article "Tribulation 2014-2021: Rapture This Year (Theory)"

End of article:

We are looking for the rapture anytime over the next year. 14 months from about now would be about the latest the rapture could occur if this scenario is correct.

And we have a clean miss ...

Please, just take it from the Lord Jesus Himself in Mark 1:15 ...

... repent and believe the gospel ...

[HLPhat]

My lamp will do just fine, Vern.

[amnestynone]

That Revelations is a prediction of future events is wrong. It is an allegory of Spiritual regeneration. The 7 churches is Asia are actually the 7 churches in Assiah and are a kabalistic definition of the 7 chakras. The seals broken are what happens when those seals are broken in the aspirants personal life. The war in heaven is the dark night of the should and the anti Christ is the guardian of the thresholds. The lady Babylon is the sense nature and the female sex energy located in the sex organs which rises a(according to mystical literature and rises uniting with the male energy in the head which is the 7 Hills of Rome(7 gates to the should(eyes ears nose and mouth). If you want to understand this than learn Kabalah.