The Problem of Catholic Pretenders

Crisis Magazine ^ | June 23, 2017 | K. E. COLOMBINI

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Well that’s definitive. It’s a boast they made more than once.

Should be easy to get a better link then.

Which of course is why Luther's likeness is used to “celebrate” the Reformation’s Anniversary instead of something more appropriate - like imagery representing the good news of the risen Christ.

And Paul was a murderer, Peter denied His Lord, Moses/David murderers, God uses the weak for His purposes.

Have they weighed in on the differences between the version of The Jews And Their Lies published by CPH and earlier translations?

Don't know, don't care. You should know since it of concern to you. I don't read the Koran either.

Stupid priesthood of all believers.

This has what do do with all believers' access to God? Were you called to be a pastor? Or a theologian? Most aren't and that's why there is a CTCR. Of course you can disagree but that makes you on par with an elcan, out of communion with LCMS.

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Uhuh. Evidently “they”, along with discussing the motivational history of Nazi Germany, didn’t have any place in the LCMS’ History curriculum, either.

Ha, on the witness of a Nazi Propagandist, strong witness there, they never lie. Just as likely that the Nazis just followed the Catholic church's attitude towards Jews for two millenia. The Nazi leadership was supposedly Catholic as well.

Stupid History — Why learn from it when it’s so profitable to repeat its “mistakes”!

What mistakes? Is there a big anti-Jew push in confessional Lutheranism?

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>>Should be easy to get a better link then.

All you gotta do is search Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=LCMS%20more%20catholic%20than%20catholic

That too hard for ya?

Referenced by “The Lutheran Reformation”
October 31, 2016

And again on

The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod
February 22 2017

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>>Ha, on the witness of a Nazi Propagandist,

Not required.

Luther’s bitter drunken rantings are a sufficient witness of the character therein.

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>>What mistakes?

Not honestly teaching about ALL of Luther’s writings in the context of indoctrinating children by having them memorize and regurgitate his words.

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What mistakes? Not honestly teaching about ALL of Luther’s writings in the context of indoctrinating children by having them memorize and regurgitate his words.

Does Luther have scriptural references for TJATL? Didn't think so. The 'regurgitated' writings do. TJATL isn't accepted doctrine, the rest is. Really isn't that tough. Did Pauls' pre-conversion musings have any value?

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Not required. Luther’s bitter drunken rantings are a sufficient witness of the character therein.

The Catholic stuff then? No forgiveness available in your world? God doesn't remember sins confessed, doesn't have to, there are people like you.

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All you gotta do is search Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=LCMS%20more%20catholic%20than%20catholic

No results.

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>>God uses the weak for His purposes.

And excuses are like a certain part of common human anatomy.

“To this group belong not only the genuinely great statesmen but all the great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great we have such men as Martin Luther and Richard Wagner.“
http://greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf

From Luther’s own drunken screed it’s not too hard to see how Hitler may have been encouraged by Luther(ans) in his anti-Semitic proclivities.

Why bother to teach Lutheran school kids about those sorts of facts; especially when it’s impossible to dress Mein Kampf up with some sort of “best possible construction” B.S.

Better to just pretend he never wrote it; and that all the angels in heaven danced when Luther farted, or something.

>>Don’t know, don’t care

Uhuh.

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All you gotta do is search Facebook

Facebook isn't a resource in my world, no matter who's it is.

Googling 'more catholic than Catholics' return results where others (not LCMS) make that claim. LCMS response is 'Thanks'. Nothing wrong with small 'c' catholic.

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“Featured Posts

The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod
February 22 ·
“You Lutherans are more catholic than the Catholics!” Thank you?”

https://www.facebook.com/TheLCMS/posts/10154681268553580?match=bW9yZSBjYXRob2xpYyB0aGFuLGJsb2dzLmxjbXMub3JnLGNhdGhvbGljcyxsY21z

Which is a “Share” of:

https://blogs.lcms.org/2016/luthers-catholic-reformation?utm_content=bufferf5609&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

The other ref in October cites/shares the same blog.

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>>Facebook isn’t a resource in my world, no matter who’s it is.

LOL.

I’ll remember that next time POTUS Trump shares his weekly address video there.

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“To this group belong not only the genuinely great statesmen but all the great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great we have such men as Martin Luther and Richard Wagner.“ http://greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf From Luther’s own drunken screed it’s not too hard to see how Hitler may have been encouraged by Luther(ans) in his anti-Semitic proclivities.

Now you have Hitler as a witness as well. Awesome! He is truly reliable as a truthteller. Repeat none of Luther's TJATL is included in the doctrine of the Book of Concord.

Better to just pretend he never wrote it;

I know he wrote it, it isn't a discourse on the scripture it isn't doctrine, so it is irrelevant to me as a believer.

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LOL. I’ll remember that next time POTUS Trump shares his weekly address video there.

I don't follow any Facebook, ever. Self-absorbed BS run by a commie.

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>>isn’t a resource in my world

Uhuh.

Just like the Complete catalog of Martin Luther’s writings wasn’t part of the LCMS’ curricular “world” when they were indoctrinating children by having them selectively memorize and regurgitate Luther’s writings.

Just like the facts regarding the body of available knowledge relating to the Natural Selection of Binary Human Sexuality wasn’t acknowledged in LCMS’ selective curricular world after 1987.

That’s sure worked out awesome for the generation(s) of children who, having been kept ignorant, now can’t even figure out what sex they are.

Bravo “Reformers”!

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>>Now you have Hitler as a witness as well

History is the witness.

Learning from it or not is a choice.

>>none of Luther’s TJATL is included in the doctrine of the Book of Concord.

And it’s not in the history curriculum of the LCMS’ schools, either.

That was a choice, too!

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>>Self-absorbed BS run by a commie.

And yet the LCMS has a rather substantial presence there.

Seems they (or at least their social media manager) is spending more time propping up an “inclusive” image on social media than they’re devoting to providing useful opinion papers like those that, though dated, can still be found on their WWW page.

None of which, BTW, explains the discrepancies between CPH’s edition of Luther’s “Jews and Their Lies” and earlier translations.

Quite the lumpy carpet. It’s like they didn’t agree with Jefferson that “Truth is great and will prevail” or something!

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>>none of Luther’s TJATL is included in the doctrine of the Book of Concord. And it’s not in the history curriculum of the LCMS’ schools, either. That was a choice, too!

For the same reasons, not doctrine.

History is the witness. Learning from it or not is a choice

History? Mein Kampf is history? Hitler proclaimed anything he wanted, history shows he was wrong. As for learning from it: Again, is there a anti-Jew movement in the LCMS?

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nd yet the LCMS has a rather substantial presence there.

Got their doctrine there or the same old same old?

Seems they (or at least their social media manager) is spending more time propping up an “inclusive” image on social media than they’re devoting to providing useful opinion

Social media guy doesn't write those papers. So is your issue that they use Facebook?

None of which, BTW, explains the discrepancies between CPH’s edition of Luther’s “Jews and Their Lies” and earlier translations.

Like what?

Quite the lumpy carpet. It’s like they didn’t agree with Jefferson that “Truth is great and will prevail” or something!

Jefferson himself didn't agree with that himself. He cut out the parts of the Bible he didn't agree with. 'Truth' is found in scripture something to which the LCMS clings.

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>>Jefferson himself didn't agree with that himself.

 

Baloney.  The 1st Amendment further codifies the thinking Jefferson articulated in the Virginia act.

 

 

"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;

 

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 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "

 

"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"

--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786

https://www.google.com/webhp?#q=truth%20is%20great%20and%20will%20prevail%20if%20left%20to%20herself