Who Am I Not to Judge? Correcting the Sinner is an Essential Work of Charity

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 06-25-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Elsie]

James 5:20 NIV

...remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

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It is EVERYONE's job!!

[Elsie]

People exercising real spiritual leadership lead by example, they don’t go around wagging fingers at other people.

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2 Samuel 12  New International Version (NIV)

 

1 The Lord sent Nathan to David. When he came to him, he said, “There were two men in a certain town, one rich and the other poor. ² The rich man had a very large number of sheep and cattle, ³ but the poor man had nothing except one little ewe lamb he had bought. He raised it, and it grew up with him and his children. It shared his food, drank from his cup and even slept in his arms. It was like a daughter to him.

⁴ “Now a traveler came to the rich man, but the rich man refrained from taking one of his own sheep or cattle to prepare a meal for the traveler who had come to him. Instead, he took the ewe lamb that belonged to the poor man and prepared it for the one who had come to him.”

⁵ David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, “As surely as the Lord lives, the man who did this must die! ⁶ He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and had no pity.”

[Elsie]

(the rest of it...)

7 Then Nathan said to David, “You are the man! This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul. 8 I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. 9 Why did you despise the word of the Lord by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites.

10 Now, therefore, the sword will never depart from your house, because you despised me and took the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your own.’

[NobleFree]

Yet isn't that precisely what Roman Catholicism says about non-Catholics?

No.

[Elsie]

Anytime the Church or an individual Christian labels a particular behavior as wrong or sinful, wagging fingers are raised.

 

 

[Elsie]

Anytime the Church or an individual Christian labels a particular behavior as wrong or sinful, wagging fingers are raised.

"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

[Lazamataz]

I judge knot.

This is a bad knot.

[NorthMountain]

I see a huge difference between casting stones and warning of dangers ahead. The sodomite, the adulterer, the abortionist, the thief, the liar, the idolater ...

I do not condemn them. That is above my pay grade.

But it is not condemning, or 'casting stones', to warn them that THEIR UNREPENTED ACTIONS LEAD TO PERDITION.

How will you feel explaining to Jesus why you did not warn your brother of the foreseeable consequences of his actions?

[NorthMountain]

We cannot make the judgment of condemnation. That is to say, we do not have the power or knowledge to condemn someone to Hell.

Yet isn't that what Protestantism (by whatever name) says about Catholics?

[Salvation]

Good point.

[Mudflaps]

Still working removing my own plank.

Or Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Satan scares me, but the Rosary is stronger.

[ealgeone]

Satan scares me, but the Rosary is stronger.

You would do better to employ Ephesians 6 than the Rosary.

10Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might.

11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.

12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

14Stand firm therefore, HAVING GIRDED YOUR LOINS WITH TRUTH, and HAVING PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,

15and having shod YOUR FEET WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL OF PEACE;

16in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.

17And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

Ephesians 6:10-17 NASB

[Mudflaps]

I’ll take my Rosary, too, I think. :-)

[Salvation]

**You would do better to employ Ephesians 6 than the Rosary.**

I have a problem with your “You” statement to another FReeper.

[Elsie]

And it looks like it is tied around some 14 gauge house wiring!

[Elsie]

Yet isn't that what Protestantism (by whatever name) says about Catholics?

Not exactly...

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"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

AFAIK the above is STILL being taught.

[Elsie]

Still working removing my own plank.

If I waited until I was perfect; I'd never say anything.

[Elsie]

Satan scares me, but the Rosary is stronger.

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[Elsie]

I have a problem with your “You” statement to another FReeper.

I feel your empathy.

[Elsie]

I’ll take my Rosary, too, I think. :-)

Heck; so would I, if I really believed what the apparition was reported to have said!!

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The 15 promises

(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1	Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2.	I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3.	The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4.	It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5.	The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6.	Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7.	Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8.	Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9.	I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10.	The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11.	You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12.	All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13.	I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14.	All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15.	Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

 

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos