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Video: Michael Heiser…Are Aliens Demons? Are Alien Abductions Real?
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 2023 | Michael Heiser

Posted on 07/28/2023 1:43:58 AM PDT by spirited irish

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To: RoosterRedux

Haven’t heard about those...................


41 posted on 07/28/2023 5:32:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: spirited irish
Of interest to this thread discussion are the monstrous beings seen and interacted with by DMT users. Users describe seeing reptilians, grays; Nordics, insectoids, goblins; dwarves, and a whole host of strange, weird, and frightening monsters.

I have often wondered is these were creatures that existed before the flood.

42 posted on 07/28/2023 5:33:50 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: DoodleBob

Back in the mid 1980s I drove through Nashville. A billboard that that picture holding a cell phone. The text read, “Our phone remembers even when you don’t”.


43 posted on 07/28/2023 5:40:52 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Red Badger
As Dr. John Mack (Pulitzer Prize-winning Harvard psychiatrist) said about abductions, their primary purpose seems to have to do with human reproduction and sexual experimentation.

Mack heard that a human-alien hybrid race was being created on the ships: listless, huge-eyed, wispy-haired children...

Source: NY Times Magazine 1994


44 posted on 07/28/2023 5:41:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Sirius Lee

Can you please tell us more about both your UFO and angel encounter?


45 posted on 07/28/2023 5:47:59 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: Sirius Lee

My first experience with something unexplained was at a cub scout meeting at the Den Mother’s house, whose son was one of the cub scouts.

Just as it was turning dark outside, one of the scouts (we were probably about 10) came into the house and said “there’s a flying saucer or something over there by the woods.”

The back yard of this house was a big open area about half the size of a football field, before the woods started. There was usually nothing there but grass. We all ran out on the porch to see what he was talking about and I remember seeing something odd, like a big shadow out there moving, but it was right at dark and hard to make out.

Some of the kids ran back in the house scared. The Den Mother thought it was much ado about nothing, and her husband wasn’t home at the time. And none of us had the courage to go down there after seeing the big shadow move.

One of us asked the boy who lived there to get his bb gun, and lets shoot out there and see what happens. So he got it and fired a bb out there.

Clink! It sounded like the bb hit metal. We looked at each other, and backed up towards the door.

Did you hear that! We all nodded, mostly speechless. Try it again someone said.

Clink! There was no doubt it was hitting metal, and he was just randomly shooting out there in the filed. When it happened the second time, we all ran back in the house again, and just looked out the window.

About an hour later some of the dads starting showing up to pick us up from the meeting. We told them, there’s something out back come help us look. Told them about the bb gun.

Of course when we went back out there, and shot the bb gun, you never even heard it hit the grass out there, or maybe a tiny muffled sound. Definitely no clinks.

The fathers just laughed at us for being crazy kids, but I remember that bb gun hitting metal. Twice.


46 posted on 07/28/2023 5:49:54 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: RoosterRedux

“But that doesn’t mean the Bible is deficient.”

So, you are one that can spot deficiencies in the Bible?


47 posted on 07/28/2023 6:35:12 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

Did I say the Bible was deficient? Re-read the comment.


48 posted on 07/28/2023 6:37:48 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: spirited irish

He does not share any of the theological arguments that make christianity and existence of alien sentient life compatible.


49 posted on 07/28/2023 6:40:31 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth and will hate you for it.)
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To: Clutch Martin

Well said. Find some shade and a fan today.


50 posted on 07/28/2023 6:42:32 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth and will hate you for it.)
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To: metmom

Yes, they existed before the flood. This includes the angels who left their first estate to descend down Mt Hermon, through a gateway, into the world of man.


51 posted on 07/28/2023 6:44:39 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: 2Dreamin

Thank-you. Will listen later on.


52 posted on 07/28/2023 6:46:45 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: RoosterRedux

Good post on the five stages of grief.

Unfortunately to get to acceptance most folks have to pass through all the stages—not fun.

Denial is the scariest—because it means there is a long way to go...

For those who are interested here is a podcast with some folks who tell their stories about alien contact—both good and bad:

https://podbay.fm/p/aliens-and-artists

Their experiences and views match up well with the five stages of grief model.


53 posted on 07/28/2023 6:55:41 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“He discusses the popular idea that aliens are related to demons, or are demons.”


“This was actually the point of the Mel Gibson movie “Signs,” but most people don’t get it.”

Wait. What? Signs presented real ETs, not spirits or demons. How is the point of that movie not real aliens or ETs? I mean... tap water, to my knowledge, does not harm or kill demons (shaking head).


54 posted on 07/28/2023 7:05:52 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: cgbg
When there are comments on UFO articles online (including those posted at FR), you can see the denial that people are in regarding this issue. And a huge amount of anger.

People don't read the stories and they don't evaluate the information that is coming out and they don't take a deep dive into the credentials and history of the people who are giving their accounts.

The problem these people are going to face is that this story isn't going to advance in a way that conforms to the speed at which they move through these stages of grief. This story doesn't care about their denial, anger, or depression.

Disclosure or confirmation (whatever one wants to call it) is here...now.

We've all seen the people on these threads who are in deep denial. I would say there's reason to be concerned but there isn't. These people will adapt because they will have no choice.

Whatever these things are, whatever it is all about...it is upon us. Whatever it is, it is real.

55 posted on 07/28/2023 7:14:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: spirited irish

Michael Heiser seemed to have great insight into the spirit world.


56 posted on 07/28/2023 7:25:04 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: reviled downesdad

I watched a previous vid by this guy, and iirc..

...he allows “ 2nd temple writtings” and non canonical books

(other than enoch),

along with other pseudographical writtings

to base his veiw of the spiritual realm.

Be a berean and compare/vet his views with scripture.


57 posted on 07/28/2023 7:26:02 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Psalm 73

You are correct sir.


58 posted on 07/28/2023 7:27:34 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: cuz1961
Nonsense.

Heiser doesn't "allow them" as you say. I presume your comment "allow them" means to include them with canon.

I have read most of Heiser's vast amount of writings on the Bible and he has always carefully explained that Enoch is NOT in the Biblical canon.

59 posted on 07/28/2023 7:35:19 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: cuz1961
If all you know of Heiser is what you just learned by watching a few videos, then you need to study more.

BTW, Heiser applauds the Bereans and their careful study of Scripture and incorporates their approach in his work on the Bible.

Heiser is an Old Testament, Ancient Hebrew and Semitic Languages scholar, who has actually looked at the original texts and their meaning.

I highly recommend Heiser's The Unseen Realm. If you haven't read it, I think you will find it fascinating.

60 posted on 07/28/2023 7:43:37 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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