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Roman Catholic Concern: Action Plan Repost
24 March A.D. 2002 | father_elijah

Posted on 03/28/2002 6:15:38 PM PST by father_elijah

SHALL WE GATHER AT THE RIVER?

By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion. Psalm 137:1

We Catholic Americans are at a crossroads. Our Lord Jesus Christ who is the Light of the World is exposing acts of evil within the Church. He is revealing those who wound his sacred Body by abusing children and youth. Our Lord is also exposing rot and disease within the structures and leadership of the Church from within provinces of religious orders, Catholic universities, and diocesan chanceries.

It is time to clean house. Not only do the pederasts, sex abusers, fornicators, adulterers and homosexuals need to be removed from leadership and the ranks of the ordained, but also the Church needs to deal with all Catholic politicians and voters in the USA who work or vote to continue the holocaust of abortion. We need the Holy Father to declare that any Catholic who votes for abortion or pro-abortion candidates will have automatically excommunicated themselves from the Church.

PREPARATION
In order to serve Christ and his poor Church in this time of crisis, each of us are called to avail ourselves of the sacraments that we may trample down the devil under our feet. Let each of us 1) make a good confession; 2) receive the Eucharist on the Feast of Divine Mercy and receive Christ’s promises to St. Faustina of mercy and pardon; 3) engage in works of mercy; and, 4) encourage others to do the same.

We lead by prayer, and we are made strong by Christ’s self-offering of his Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. We have a great weapon for fighting evil in the rosary. We do not turn to prayer as a last resort, but we turn to prayer as the beginning, center, and end of all that we strive to do for Our Lord Jesus Christ. We engage in prayer for the Church knowing that when we pray we are not alone in prayer or in action. The Lord Jesus Christ intercedes for us as the Scriptures teach us, and Our Lord delights to call Our Lady, St. Joseph, and the whole communion of saints to join in interceding for each member of the Body of Christ and the mission of his Church.

We -- who long for the cleansing of the Church from these grave acts of evil -- have the means of prayer through which we can grow in holiness even as we pray for the Church to be purified from every stain of evil and made holy as Christ is holy. Let us avail ourseves of these powerful gifts of prayer:

The Daily Mass or a daily Act of Spiritual Communion
Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration
Benediction and Adoration
Prayers of Reparation
Stations of the Cross
The Holy Rosary
The Chaplet of the Divine Mercy
The Litanies
Novenas, especially the Novena to the Holy Spirit
The Liturgy of the Hours
Other Chaplets and Devotions

Let every action we undertake be covered in prayer and overshadowed by the Holy Spirit so that only God’s will is desired and achieved through our efforts.

ACTION
For love of the Lord Jesus Christ, we are called to action against evil. Let each faithful Catholic offer themselves at Mass or at home to be the beginning point of the Church’s cleansing and renewal. Ask the Lord’s blessing that we may each speak the truth in love and walk in the Holy Spirit.

There are a variety of actions that one can undertake to be part of a holy response to these times of crisis. The following are suggestions that have been made on various internet discussion lists:

*Show up at the nearest Chancery on the Monday after Easter at 12 noon and pray the Rosary for the Cleansing of the Priesthood and the Church.
*Show up at your parish and pray at 3pm every day.
*Show up at your diocesan Chancery and pray whenever you can.
*Write, telephone, and e-mail your bishops and priests and express your horror over the sexual scandals and tell them you expect full disclosure and immediate action.
*Direct your financial support to those parts of the Catholic Church that are beyond reproach i.e., the Sisters of Life, the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal, the Nashville Dominicans, Mother Teresa’s Missionaries of Charity, EWTN, among many others.
* Get involved in the lay opportunities for service in your parish by volunteering yourself to your pastor to serve on any committee or in any capacity -- especially those for which you have identifiable gifts.
*Write to the Holy Father -- write in Polish if you can -- and beg him to intervene and clean up the Church in the United States. Be sure to copy the letter to your bishop and pastor.

The following are some actions you may consider asking of the Holy Father(and recommending to your bishop):

1. Ask the Holy Father to lead the Church in a worldwide Day of Penance for the sexual sins of the Church’s leadership;
2. Ask the Holy Father to require churches without fail to restore the Tabernacle back to its original location directly behind the center of the altar.
3. Ask the Holy Father to declare that homosexuals may not receive Holy Orders but are welcome to carry their cross among the ranks of the lay faithful;
4. Ask the Holy Father to remove Cardinals, bishops, priests, and deacons who have covered up cases of sexual abuse and see to their prosecution.
5. Ask the Holy Father to please give the Church in the USA new Cardinals, for example, elevating men of the caliber of Archbishop Chaput of Denver.
6. Ask the Holy Father to suspend the US National Conference of Catholic Bishops and to appoint a Triumvirate to clean house, to root out evil, and to liberate the Church in the USA from error and crime.
7. Ask the Holy Father to restore the prayer “St. Michael the Archangel” to the close of every Mass to be prayed aloud by all present.
8. Ask the Holy Father to extend the faculty to every priest in the Church to celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Missal.
9. Ask the Holy Father to issue a sentence of automatic excommunication for any Catholic who votes or works to support the ongoing holocaust of abortion.
10. Ask the Holy Father to disassociate the Church from those once Catholic universitiies and colleges that no longer affirm the magisterium of the Church or loyalty to the Pope.

Also, some have suggested asking the Holy Father the following:

a) Beg the Holy Father to shut down religious orders or provinces of religious orders (like the California province of the Society of Jesus) that are a scandal in themselves.
b) Inquire of the Holy Father whether or not it would be better to give Cardinal Law, Cardinal Egan, and Cardinal Mahony new jobs at the Vatican.
c) Ask the Holy Father to give the Cardinal’s red hat to great men of faith, men like Fr. Joseph Fessio, S.J.
d) Ask the Holy Father to make someone like Fr. Benedict Groeschel the next Archbishop of New York.
e) Ask the Holy Father to make someone like Bishop F. Bruskewitz the next Archbishop of Boston.

Some will find these ideas too presumptuous, but it is clear that the Holy Father and the leadership of the Church in the USA need to hear from the faithful. Also, they need to hear specific suggestions and not merely our generalized revulsion and grief over the crises and crimes exposed in the Church today.

Finally, be sure to pray for the Pope with all your heart, and write to the Holy Father a letter of encouragement. Assure him of your prayers for his intentions and for him personally. Also, write letters of encouragement to any deacon, priest, or bishop whom you know to be defenders of the faith and devoted to Our Lord Jesus Christ. Our good and faithful priests and religious need to know that they are loved and cherished.

Be not afraid, as the Holy Father always reminds us. Do not despair. All is not lost. All things are possible with God. Trust in the Lord.

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with sighs too deep for words. And he who searches the hearts of men knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose. Romans 8:26-28

Jesus, King of the nations, hear us.
Jesus, Our great High Priest, hear us.
Christ, hear us.
Christ, graciously hear us.

St. Michael the Archangel, fight for us.
Our Lady of Guadalupe, pray for us.
Good Saint Joseph, pray for us.
St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, pray for us.




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Thank you for all of the positive reponse to this Catholic Call to Prayer and Action. Many of you requested that I repost the thread, and I am doing so.

I entreat you not to respond to disruptors who may try to interrupt this thread again. Let us keep focused on Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Church we love. Thank you.

1 posted on 03/28/2002 6:15:39 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: Diago; ELS; Lady In Blue; fatima; ventana; Squire; proud2bRC; redhead; Salvation...
ping.
2 posted on 03/28/2002 6:18:21 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: Codie; history_matters; Ward Smythe
Thanks to each of you for your different roles and contributions in the thread that was deleted. God bless!
3 posted on 03/28/2002 6:23:29 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: onyx; tiki; jrherreid; nickcarraway; Kevin Curry; aquinasfan; aposiopetic; Judith Anne;
ping.
4 posted on 03/28/2002 6:31:01 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: father_elijah
I prayed for our parish priests at mass tonight. Fortunately, we are blessed with three good ones. May the Lord send us more honest workers for the harvest.
5 posted on 03/28/2002 6:43:25 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: father_elijah
2. Ask the Holy Father to require churches without fail to restore the Tabernacle back to its original location directly behind the center of the altar.
7. Ask the Holy Father to restore the prayer “St. Michael the Archangel” to the close of every Mass to be prayed aloud by all present.
8. Ask the Holy Father to extend the faculty to every priest in the Church to celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Missal.

Ah Father, if only .............
I will say my daily rosary and pray most fervently for our Lords Church.
To be honest, I pray for a fully restored Pre-Vatican II Church.

6 posted on 03/28/2002 6:45:53 PM PST by katnip
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To: father_elijah
Sigh...I'm sad to hear the previous thread was deleted. The last time I checked in, it had been hijacked. We (Catholics) must persevere. We are besieged on all sides from within and without the Church.
7 posted on 03/28/2002 6:52:01 PM PST by ELS
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To: katnip; Antoninus; fatima; Salvation; notwithstanding; ELS; Lady In Blue; Askel5; patent
FYI

GOOD FRIDAY ROSARY CRUSADE.
Please join Catholics around the world in praying the Rosary between noon and 3:00 pm on Good Friday for the end of legalized abortion.

8 posted on 03/28/2002 6:52:46 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: father_elijah
Disruptors got the last thread pulled?

Got the heads up from my Mom and others on the Rosary. Either after Stations at noon or services at 3:00.

God bless you, Father_Elijah.

9 posted on 03/28/2002 7:10:01 PM PST by Askel5
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To: father_elijah
The last thread was posted in Religion and it still was stomped on? Just curious.
10 posted on 03/28/2002 7:10:49 PM PST by Askel5
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To: father_elijah
Thank you,father for all that you do and also for this post.
11 posted on 03/28/2002 7:19:19 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: father_elijah
Thank you, Father. I was sorry to see that original thread had been deleted, but I had saved your article to disk. At the Easter Vigil we will pray:

Ut Ecclesiam tuam sanctam
regere et conservare digneris,
te rogamus, audi nos.

Ut domnum apostolicum
et omnes ecclesiaticos ordines
in sancta religione conservare digneris,
te rogamus, audi nos.

And from this evening's (Maundy Thursday) Liturgy:

Maneant in vobis fides, spes, caritas, tria hæc:
maior autem horum est caritas.

I see you have also started a thread on the Hymns of Holy Week for Wednesday, but in light of what happened, I hope you won't mind if I post the great hymn from this evening's liturgy here:

Ubi caritas est vera, Deus ibi est.
Congregavit nos in unum Christi amor.
Exsultemus et in ipso iucundemur.
Timeamus et amemus Deum vivum.
Et ex corde diligamus nos sincero.

Ubi caritas est vera, Deus ibi est.
Simul ergo cum in unum congregamur:
Ne nos mente dividamur, caveamus.
Cessent iurgia maligna, cessent lites.
Et in medio nostri sit Christus Deus.

Ubi caritas est vera, Deus ibi est.
Simul quoque cum beatis videamus
Glorianter vultum tuum, Christe Deus:
Gaudium, quod est immensum, atque probum,
Sæcula per infinita sæculorum.

Blessing for the Triduum, and thanks again!

12 posted on 03/28/2002 7:32:12 PM PST by neocon
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To: father_elijah
Father Elijah,

Here's the synthesis of your work I promised the other day. I tried to make it into a letter that regular lay folks can send to their priests, bishop, the Pope, and anyone else they think might be beneficial to the cause.

I hope you and others find it suitable. If not, please let me know where it may be adjusted.

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Dear ...[or "Your Eminence" depending on who you're writing to],

I am a devout Catholic and am very concerned about the state of the Church here in America. I believe that our Lord Jesus Christ who is the Light of the World is even now exposing acts of evil within the Church. He is revealing those who wound his sacred Body by abusing children and youth. Our Lord is also exposing rot and disease within the structures and leadership of the Church from within provinces of religious orders, Catholic universities, and diocesan chanceries.

I believe it is time to clean house. First and foremost, the pederasts, sex abusers, fornicators, adulterers and homosexuals need to be removed from leadership and the ranks of the ordained. That such a purging may occur, I have pledged myself to do the following [pick one or more of the following]:

1) Seek confession on a more regular basis;
2) receive the Eucharist on the Feast of Divine Mercy and receive Christ’s promises to St. Faustina of mercy and pardon;
3) engage in works of mercy; and encourage others to do the same.
5.) pray the rosary daily
6.) attend Daily Mass or a daily Act of Spiritual Communion
7.) attend Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration
8.) attend Benediction and Adoration
9.) say Prayers of Reparation
10.) say the Stations of the Cross
11.) say The Chaplet of the Divine Mercy
12.) say The Litanies
13.) attend Novenas, especially the Novena to the Holy Spirit
14.) attend The Liturgy of the Hours

I beg you to disclose fully and immediately any evidence of criminal wrongdoing or improper sexual behavior within the clergy that you are aware of. This horrible scandal must be stopped. Until I can be certain that our diocese [or parish] is free from corruption, I will be directing my financial support to those parts of the Catholic Church that are beyond reproach.

I furthermore request that you urge the following actions be taken: [choose one or more of these]

1. The Holy Father lead the Church in a worldwide Day of Penance for the sexual sins of the Church’s leadership.
2. The Holy Father require churches without fail to restore the Tabernacle back to its original location directly behind the center of the altar.
3. The Holy Father declare that homosexuals may not receive Holy Orders but are welcome to carry their cross among the ranks of the lay faithful.
4. The Holy Father remove Cardinals, bishops, priests, and deacons who have covered up cases of sexual abuse and see to their prosecution.
5. The Holy Father please give the Church in the USA new Cardinals, for example, elevating men of the caliber of Archbishop Chaput of Denver.
6. The Holy Father suspend the US National Conference of Catholic Bishops and to appoint a Triumvirate to clean house, to root out evil, and to liberate the Church in the USA from error and crime.
7. The Holy Father restore the prayer “St. Michael the Archangel” to the close of every Mass to be prayed aloud by all present.
8. The Holy Father extend the faculty to every priest in the Church to celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Missal.
9. The Holy Father to issue a sentence of automatic excommunication for any Catholic who votes or works to support the ongoing holocaust of abortion.
10. The Holy Father disassociate the Church from those once Catholic universities and colleges that no longer affirm the magisterium of the Church or loyalty to the Pope.
11.) The Holy Father shut down religious orders or provinces of religious orders (like the California province of the Society of Jesus) that are a scandal in themselves.
12.) Inquire of the Holy Father whether or not it would be better to give Cardinal Law, Cardinal Egan, and Cardinal Mahony new jobs at the Vatican.
13.) Ask the Holy Father to give the Cardinal’s red hat to great men of faith, men like Fr. Joseph Fessio, S.J.
14.) Ask the Holy Father to make someone like Fr. Benedict Groeschel the next Archbishop of New York.
15.) Ask the Holy Father to make someone like Bishop F. Bruskewitz the next Archbishop of Boston.

Finally, please be aware that I pray for you, the Pope, and all the clergy with all my heart. I thank you for the personal sacrifices you have made in your devotion to Christ and for the vows you took at your ordination. Please keep in mind that although I am disgusted and frustrated with the scandal afflicting Mother Church, I truly love and cherish good, faithful priests like yourself.

Sincerely,

My Name

"We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28
13 posted on 03/28/2002 7:32:50 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Lady In Blue
Amen. Yes, thanks, Father. We pray daily for the restoration of Holy Mother Church and her liturgy. Now we add her priesthood.
14 posted on 03/28/2002 7:34:14 PM PST by redhead
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To: father_elijah
Dear Father,I will not respond to negative people on this thread,I am praying a novena for your intentions and I already pray the rosary everyday and do much more than I can mention here.Today you and all Our Lord's priests renewed your vows,I cried today to see all the best gathered with the Cardinal.
15 posted on 03/28/2002 8:16:05 PM PST by fatima
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To: fatima
What a great blessing you and your prayers are to me!
16 posted on 03/28/2002 8:32:11 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: father_elijah
7. Ask the Holy Father to restore the prayer “St. Michael the Archangel” to the close of every Mass to be prayed aloud by all present.

I would sure love this.

17 posted on 03/28/2002 9:25:53 PM PST by tiki
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To: father_elijah
I will happily add your intentions to my daily prayers, and also pray a novena to St. Jude (my favorite!) that your work bears fruit...God bless us every one! ;-D
18 posted on 03/29/2002 5:32:43 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: father_elijah
A BUMP to the thread... And an observation: The Holy Thursday service at my parish was attended by quite a few people... all age groups represented! Prayer works!
19 posted on 03/29/2002 5:52:59 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: father_elijah
Father, thank you for posting again since I missed it the first time around. Also, how can I be added to the Catholic_list? I would really appreciate it if someone could put me on that bump list.

God bless you!

20 posted on 03/29/2002 7:16:20 AM PST by ltlflwr
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To: father_elijah
I'm glad your post has been granted a 2nd chance.I enjoyed reading it this time just as much as I did the 1st time.Keep it coming and God Bless!
21 posted on 03/29/2002 8:23:01 AM PST by Codie
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To: father_elijah
BUMP Time!
22 posted on 03/29/2002 9:15:00 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: father_elijah
BUMP Time...again!
23 posted on 03/29/2002 11:25:47 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: one_particular_harbour
Bottom line is that I wonder how much can actually be blamed on Vatican II, when there were other factors at play (demographic changes, communication changes, technological innovation) which may have changed the dynamic instead.
Not a great deal. Vatican II often used the vague language that accompanies consensus building. Its greatest flaw was a lack of clarity.

For the liturgy, for example, it indicated that Latin was to remain the norm, but that the vernacular could be used for some portions (such as the readings, one supposes). It indicated that Gregorian chant and then polyphony were to be the music. You can’t find a reference to what goes on in most modernist parishes, things like guitars and folk music.

I could probably go on for quite some time, but it would get boring. There are somethings in V2 I didn’t like, but for the most part it wasn’t so bad once you actually read the documents. What is bad is what the liberals claim it said, and they have been largely successful in pushing their interpretation. Both the hyper conservatives and the liberals claim that V2 changed everything and is the source of clown masses, etc.

They never seem to be able to find cites for these things in the V2 documents though. Of course, their word is good enough, right? Its only the little people who need to actually cite to something.

patent  +AMDG

25 posted on 03/29/2002 12:09:15 PM PST by patent
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To: patent
OK..I'll admit I haven't read the V-2 documents...But to be honest, I don't think most the changes have been bad at all. I mean, I'm still conservative and I don't see anything wrong with a Mass in the language people can understand. Nor do I have much sympathy for the people who want to "re-arrange" the furniture back to the old way. It's just piddily-stuff to me. (OK...I do miss the tabernacle in the middle...so sue me! LOL!)

Have a great Easter!

26 posted on 03/29/2002 12:54:44 PM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: grumpster-dumpster
To me it depends a lot on what the change is. The Church is constantly changing, it always has been. The thing is the changes should be consistent with 2000 years of tradition, at least in the same spirit. Being able to understand the Mass is fine. The Mass has been in the vernacular before, in some places I think it has always been that way. Certainly it is reasonable to put parts of the Mass in the vernacular, such as the readings, etc.

AT the same time, we now have people making changes merely for the sake of trying something new. The parish liturgical director doesn't like this or that, so she changes this or that to something else. A great deal of the deeper spiritual meaning is lost when there is no reason for the change, other then it is a neat thing to try!

Going to Mass becomes less a mystical union and more an entertainment venue/social gathering.

patent

27 posted on 03/29/2002 1:06:51 PM PST by patent
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To: patent
Yeah, I understand what your saying. I have a "confession to make" (Please: NO INTERNET ABSOLUTIONS! LOL!). I left the Churh for many years; Today was the first time in a long, long while that I attended a "Stations of the Cross" vigil... I have to admit I was shocked at the informality and lack of majesty. The service was conducted by one of the Deacons, and was too short (About 25 minutes).

This is my "beef:" When people take the time to show-up for a service at 3pm... they are there because they want to be! At least have the courtesy to conduct a proper service... not the Readers-Digest version.

28 posted on 03/29/2002 1:31:34 PM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: father_elijah
Thank you for re-posting this thread, Father. Pity the previous thread was (as usual) disrupted.
29 posted on 03/29/2002 5:15:17 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
I just saw this action plan for the first time. I am very moved by it, and I am not Roman Catholic--yet. I just wanted to encourage all of you. You have a wonderful Church, and I think the Pope is the bravest Christian alive today. Please don't give up or despair. Christ loves his Church. Christ loves all of you.
30 posted on 03/29/2002 5:26:29 PM PST by OxfordMovement
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To: ltlflwr
Also, how can I be added to the Catholic_list?

In two words, you can't. It is not a ping/flag list where you are flagged to a thread. It is a bump list where a list of all threads bumped to a particular topic can be seen. So, you can see the list of all Catholic-related threads that have been bumped to the Catholic_list.

31 posted on 03/29/2002 6:49:25 PM PST by ELS
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To: father_elijah
I thanked my priest last week in the confessional for dedicating his life to Christ and for being a priest. Just think how dreadful things would be without dedicated priests and religious. I think this country would self-destruct in no time!

Thanks for the post Fr. I will offer all of my Holy Week prayers and communions for priests, bishops and for an increase in vocations.

32 posted on 03/29/2002 7:06:13 PM PST by ProtectRUnborn
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To: ELS
Thanks for the clarification. :)
33 posted on 03/29/2002 7:14:20 PM PST by ltlflwr
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To: one_particular_harbour;patent;grumpster_dumpster
I have not read the V2 documents either. I don't know who decided on the changes, I just know what was done.
When we no longer knelt to receive communion on our tongue but started having it dumped in our hands, it bothered me.
Face to face Confession, not for me.
The change to addressing the priests and nuns by given names gave me the creeps.
I did not need them to be my "friends", I needed them to be my respected "leaders".
Anything that was beautiful in the small church I grew up in was removed.
All was replaced with ugly wooden carvings, a totem-pole tabernacle and a risen Christ thingy on the wall.
The stations of the cross are some bizzaro modern art crap.
Guitars and tambourines, clapping, the lack of reverence and mystery.
I'm a simple person who misses the loveliness and spirituality of the old days.
Maybe it's something that's now missing in me, I don't know.
When I take my 10 year old to the childrens mass every Sunday, I cringe when we get to the "Mystery of Faith".
They've turned it into this real snazzy song,
"Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again and again"
Eh, what's a little heresy, as long as it sounds good.
34 posted on 03/29/2002 7:29:57 PM PST by katnip
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To: OxfordMovement
Please read past my post #34
Don't let this grumpy old traditionalist take away any joy you are having about your conversion to Catholism.
I saw you defending a Catholic on another post and admired you for it.
Welcome to FR and to the Blessed Church.
35 posted on 03/29/2002 7:43:17 PM PST by katnip
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To: father_elijah
Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a wonderful plan of prayer and action! I will do my best to follow this plan. Thank you for leading us in this apiritual warfare.
36 posted on 03/29/2002 8:42:43 PM PST by Palladin
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To: father_elijah
Thank you for your work in re-posting this!

Looking forward to the Easter Vigial Service and new Catholics inducted into the Church!

37 posted on 03/29/2002 9:32:04 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Antoninus
This is extremely good. Thank you for putting this together in such a clear letter form. I hope many will make use of it as a means to support Our Lord and the cleansing of His Church.
38 posted on 03/30/2002 4:01:03 AM PST by father_elijah
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To: father_elijah
Thank you so much for putting a plan of action to words. It gives me an outline of action instead of wringing my hands - prayer is wonderful, but I need to know that I can do something that requires action.

Please pray for my parish priest, and I beg all those here to do the same, I believe this poor man is going through some kind of crisis of faith right now as I have witnessed several very odd incidents by him and he asked me to pray for him during one of them.

Thanks again!

39 posted on 03/30/2002 5:36:07 AM PST by american colleen
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To: father_elijah
This Lent, the priesthood itself has been crucified in a very real sense. All priests -- even those who have been completely faithful and have heroically sacrificed everything for God -- are now under a cloud of suspicion.

I hope that those in authority are doing some substantial self-examination right now. If they are, good will ultimately come out of this.

40 posted on 03/30/2002 6:46:42 AM PST by Squire
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To: father_elijah
Let's remember the bold stand Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz took against so-called Catholics involved in Planned Parenthood and CTA some years ago. It stands as a model that every bishop would do well to employ. BISHOP BRUSKEWITZ
41 posted on 03/30/2002 6:54:05 AM PST by father_elijah
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To: Squire
The cross we must bear continues to be exquisitely carved by God, and we must carry it with confidence through clouds of suspicion and attacks from all sides. We must carry it faithfully all for the glory of the Risen Lord Jesus Christ the Righteous.

Out of every evil, God draws a greater good.

42 posted on 03/30/2002 7:00:27 AM PST by father_elijah
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To: Nubbin, Catholic_list
Bump and ping
43 posted on 03/30/2002 7:09:41 AM PST by father_elijah
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To: katnip
I just wanted to say thanks for the reply. Sorry, I didn't respond last night...went to servies and never bothered to turn the computer back-on when I returned.

Woke up to a new format... see what happens when you turn your back? LOL!

I agree change for the sake of hange is wasteful and confusing. But overall, I like the inlusion of some "old-time-religion" songs.

Have a Great Easter!

P.S.: In the future please be careful of using the term "grumpy" when desribing yourself... It's a little too personal to me! :o)

44 posted on 03/30/2002 7:35:40 AM PST by grumpster-dumpster
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To: father_elijah
Thanks for the ping Father. It's a shame the other thread got pulled. I'm taking no chances and saving this to my hard drive now.

Come , Holy Spirit, Blest Sanctifier, mercifully assist your Catholic Church.
By your heavenly power strengthen and establish her against the assaults of her enemies.
By your love and grace renew the spirit of your servants whom you have anointed.
Grant that they may in you glorify the Father and his only Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

45 posted on 03/30/2002 7:51:34 AM PST by Nubbin
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To: Nubbin; all

Pray for the Holy Father!


46 posted on 03/30/2002 8:04:37 AM PST by history_matters
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To: grumpster-dumpster
P.S.: In the future please be careful of using the term "grumpy" when desribing yourself... It's a little too personal to me! :o)

LOL. OK, I promise to not be "grumpy", I'll just be "wretched".

47 posted on 03/30/2002 5:12:47 PM PST by katnip
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To: father_elijah
A daily Act of Spiritual Communion
Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration
Benediction and Adoration
Prayers of Reparation
The Chaplet of the Divine Mercy
The Litanies
Novenas, especially the Novena to the Holy Spirit
The Liturgy of the Hours
Other Chaplets and Devotions

As a "newbie" to the Church (2 hours old) Can you recommend a source for the above (on line or book)

Thank You,
And Happy Easter.
v.

48 posted on 03/30/2002 7:05:39 PM PST by ventana
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To: OxfordMovement
I am very happy to see you converting. I myself obtained the Sacraments of Initiation this evening. I'm glowing right now, so I'll leave y'all with His peace. If ever I can be of assistance, drop me a FReepmail.
49 posted on 03/30/2002 7:18:38 PM PST by roachie
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To: ventana
You too? COOL! Guess that we need to have our own little clique of Neophytes. :)
50 posted on 03/30/2002 7:20:06 PM PST by roachie
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