Appreciated. I would rather butt heads with you than be on a thread where everyone agrees. I enjoy a mind challenge.
Since your answer was in depth, I'll break this post down into 2 parts so its easier on the eyes.
There was a time the human mind could not conceive of higher math, either. And some minds (like mine) still aren't terribly good at it. It doesn't mean that we should shrink back from trying.
I am all for higer learning, I just think that we are incapable of understanding certain aspects of our existance and of the universe. I am not advocating that we stop trying to research, only that our intellect can only penetrate so deep.
It simply isn't logical to believe that science is capable of unlocking every mystery in the unviverse and of understanding everything in a pure material way.
Sure it is. What's illogical about it? And remember, the word is "illogical," not "intimidating" or "overwhelming." Because I understand that the massive amount of things we do not know can be overwhelming. But so?
There are certain things that the mind of man simply cannot discover or ascertain. For example, the placement of the earth. If it were a little farther away from the sun the entire planet would be an antartica; if it were a little closer, it would be a continuous Sahara desert. The placement is precise, and that is not by chance. There is no way to scientifically unlock this mystery in material terms.
There are certain things we were not meant to understand...are not capable of understanding.
That's what people say when what they want to do is make a space for faith, and say that through faith we can "know." Well, if we can't "know" then we can't "know" and "knowing through faith" would still be "knowing," according to your worldview. Wouldn't it?
Actually, I am of the belief that we can know about faith, since I believe in a personal God. I am referring more to the above paragraph on mysteries of the universe, or the conditions necessary for life on this planet.
You are looking at this 100% backwards, like the man who marvels that his mouth is just big enough to fit a spoon into, and how miraculous it is that our mouths are just the right size for spoons. Well of course they are, the spoon was built for the mouth, not the other way around.