Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church?

http://www.chuckmorse.com/communism_catholic_church.html ^ | Chuck Morse

[narses]

As a traditional Jew, I'm deeply concerned over the plight of the Roman Catholic Church, which I consider to be the largest and most influential repository of conservative Judeo-Christian values in America today. I believe that those of us who care about the furtherance of a moral society have a stake in the future of the church as a moral force. The American church is under siege today, not only from the usual external forces but also from the weight of its own internal contradictions. The scandal of corrupt homosexual priests violating the innocence of minors in their care is, to put it mildly, a contradiction in Christian and Catholic practice and faith. When did this corruption inject itself into the system and why was the situation allowed to deteriorate to such a degree?

Much has been written regarding Communist methods of infiltration. The standard method was to "bore from within" which involved Communists disguising themselves as loyalists to an organization they sought to undermine. Once gaining entry, they would gradually and subtly change the values and principles of the targeted organization. The process of "change" can take a generation. Communists have exhibited unlimited patience and supreme confidence in the ultimate attainment of their goals. Examples in America include substantial inroads by Communists into organized labor, academia, the legal profession, race relations, cultural institutions, and the government itself.

When planning to infiltrate, the Communists probe for an institutional weakness to exploit and, in the case of the Catholic Church, perhaps they perceived the weakness to reside in the all-male celibate priesthood. Did Communists send their followers, particularly homosexuals, sexual deviants, and enablers, into seminaries to become priests in order to foster a homosexual culture within the church? Homosexuals, practicing their predilections in an overwhelmingly conservative Catholic community, while given protection by well placed minded superiors, could certainly contribute to the undermining of faith in Catholicism and could unquestionably shake the credibility and moral standing of the church itself down to its very foundations. Undermining Catholic authority has been a clear and often stated goal of the Communist left. Speculation regarding how the Communists attempted to implement their program is reasonable and necessary in order to better understand the present situation.

Two former Communists, Bella Dodd and Manning Johnson, spoke on Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future "you will not recognize the Catholic Church," Dodd also asserted that:

"In the 1930's, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within."

"Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism."

Manning Johnson, a former Communist Party official and author of "Color, Communism and Common Sense" testified in 1953 to the House un-American Activities Committee regarding the infiltration of the Catholic Church:

"Once the tactic of infiltration of religious organizations was set by the Kremlin ... the Communists discovered that the destruction of religion could proceed much faster through infiltration of the (Catholic) Church by Communists operating within the Church itself. The Communist leadership in the United States realized that the infiltration tactic in this country would have to adapt itself to American conditions (Europe also had its cells) and the religious make-up peculiar to this country. In the earliest stages it was determined that with only small forces available to them, it would be necessary to concentrate Communist agents in the seminaries. The practical conclusion drawn by the Red leaders was that these institutions would make it possible for a small Communist minority to influence the ideology of future clergymen in the paths conducive to Communist purposes This policy of infiltrating seminaries was successful beyond even our communist expectations."

As a radio talk show host and avid listener to talk radio in Boston, I've listened intently to comments by Catholics as the crisis has unfolded. Much has been said regarding the left dominance of the seminaries and a prevalence of the ideas of "liberation theology" which is a biblically contradictory Trojan horse within the Catholic gates. Establishment organs, such as the Boston Globe, continue to wring their hands over the homosexual activities of priests while supporting a homosexual agenda everywhere else. Hopefully, the Catholic flock will wake up and sweep the corruption out of their church in the same way that their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, swept the moneychangers out of the Temple.

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[baa39]

...and to bring my verbose post above to a more common level, a nearby parish of mostly regular, nice, average Catholics has a few members who are self-proclaimed “communists” (one even declares himself an “anarchist”). One of them controls the music ministry and another the religious education program.

[Salvation]

Now that’s scary!

And I bet many of you have tried to do something about it, too!

Pray for them. Who knows? Your prayers just may bring about a re-conversion in their lives. (But for me, I’m thinking that would be an extremely difficult task.)

How about if I pray for you?

[VxH]

[Do away with the Church.
Do away with the family.
Do away with society.]

 

 

What impact do you think  IDEA, the Disabilities Education Improvement Act,  will have upon reaching these objectives?

 

 

Seems to me  that the services required are a better fit within the domain of compassion and altruism, normally served by the Church.

[do the dhue]

http://www.amazon.com/Not-Shot-Fired-Jan-Kozak/dp/189264701X

The New American magazine, July 5, 1999
Communist and socialist elements within a parliament initiate "policies and legislation which strengthen the hand of grassroots revolutionaries." They also connive to punish those who oppose the planned coup. "Meanwhile, grassroots revolutionaries whip up the appearance of popular support" for the revolutionary agenda "through strikes, rallies, petitions, threats, and - sometimes - sabotage. The 'pressure from below' by the small number of revolutionaries and their larger number of dupes is then used to 'justify' the centralization of power in the hands of the executive branch of the state. Wishy-washy politicians are intimidated, and the 'pressure from above' intensifies.

Each legislative victory results in new demands for even stronger legislation, which is relentlessly pursued by communists and their dupes in parliament - who claim that they are acting in the name of the popular will. The cycle continues until opposition is completely powerless, intimidated, or liq! uidated - and the revolution is a fait accompli."

Book Description
Jan Kozak explains how the people of Czechoslovakia were manipulated into voting themselves into slavery. Through targeted mass agitation, a free government was transformed into a totalitarian dictatorship -- legally! Today more than ever, the revolutionary methods described by Kozak are being targeted against American liberties.

[stevem]

As a guy who spent his grade school years as an altar boy and his high school years as a seminarian, I have a theory or two about the homosexuals and pedophiles that seem to manifest themselves in the ranks. I never experienced any of it first hand and suspect it's quite as normal as any segment of society. That is, a miniscule number of people can effect an enormous amount of harm. I have often suspected that enabling bishops also have some of the twisted gene coursing through their veins.

Regarding the communist aspect of this, I guess I don't know first hand, once again. There isn't any question that many of the pastors and curates I have bumped into from time to time are beyond liberal. Yet, I've also bumped into more than a few priests who were and are conservatives, both religiously and socially. I even met a Jesuit who is a member of the NRA and quite a fan of free enterprise in the business world.

That doesn't stop me from cringing in revulsion when I hear a sermon by some clown decrying the west in general and the unique culture of the United States in particular.

Is it because of the infiltration of the church in the 1930s? That seems an over simplification. Then, if that is partly so, I'd say they blew it with one Karol Wojtyla and one Joseph Ratzinger. These were and are throw backs, as it were. With luck the believers in truth, justice and the American way will prevail over those men of the cloth who want to have it all crash down in the delusion that crashing institutions will fall in such a way so as to miss their destroyers.

[rogernz]

i once heard Rush answer a question on conspiracies between the democratic party and the media, he said that it is not necessary for a conspiracy to have occurred since they all think the smae way! liberals in the church think along the same delusional lines as communists.

[rogernz]

btw... some (catholic) university friends of mine and i are doing something about these libs... and having fun at the same time. a friend of mine and i went a few weeks ago to a meeting of those types, some had MAs from Notre Dame and other universities but we got up in front of the WHOLE group and told them they were heretics and we also had the catechism and other documents to prove they were. They shocked - they had never been challenged before!! the counter attack has begun :-D

[rogernz]

you’re misleading on this, JP2 and (former) cardinal ratzinger both said that nothing is wrong about medj. jp2 even asked rhetorically; Do they pray there? -yes. do they go to confession there? - yes. then no problem!!

[diamond6]

I read a jaw dropping book about ten years ago, I can’t remember the exact title, it was something like AA50, the Diary of An Anti-Apostle or something to that affect.

It was very sobering to read.

[diamond6]

“Yet, she said she would sacrifice her life to save him. She entered the Carmelite Convent to pray to God in his name. Michael writes: “She was there for my sake, she would have her hair cut for my sake, she would pray for me all her life, she would be behind gratings for my sake, never anymore would she have the least lover’s joy . . for my sake.” If he was saved, it would be due to a great grace gained from her sacrifice and atonement for his sins.”

This had me in tears!!!

[Domestic Church]

The Soviet Art of Brainwashing: A Synthesis on the Russian Texbook on Psychopolitics:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/psychopolitics.html

The Desolate City:

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a383b7dfd77dd.htm#top

Current Communist Goals

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a2d1c346bcc.htm

Communist Exploitation of Religion (US Senate)

http://freerepublic.com/forum/a3ab83bab1064.htm

Windswept House

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1136142/posts

Also try googling this oldies for cached copies:

Attitude Channeling and Brainwashing

Propaganda Techniques

A Thought That HAunts Me Constantly

[reasonisfaith]

Any idea how I can access the middle three links?

[rabidralph]

Yes, they’re called democrats.

[narses]

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[steve86]

Medj is a fraud. The local Bishop (and his oredecessor) have both said, in writing, that there is no evidence of an apparition and both have said the "seers" have lied to them

Your information is outdated here. Do some research.

[steve86]

As my comment is “several years ahead of it’s time”. Old thread.

[NeoCaveman]

I think a better question is this “Is there anything the Communists didn't infiltrate?”

[narses]

No kidding.

[narses]

You are still here, he got banned.

[trisham]

Establishment organs, such as the Boston Globe, continue to wring their hands over the homosexual activities of priests while supporting a homosexual agenda everywhere else.

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Wow, has he got that right.