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'Rise to the divinity within'
The Deseret News ^ | 10/7/2002 | Alan Edwards and Twila Van Leer

Posted on 10/08/2002 8:08:14 PM PDT by Utah Girl

Work hard in the home, President Hinckley says

"Rise to the divinity within you."

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Those who attended general conference pour out of the LDS Conference Center after the Sunday morning session.

Keith Johnson, Deseret News

That concluding statement by President Gordon B. Hinckley capsulized the messages that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints heard during the two-day, 172nd Semi-annual Conference of the church. Held in the Conference Center, the proceedings were beamed live via satellite and Internet to the largest number of locations ever, including the former Soviet Union, Asia and Australia.

President Hinckley, the 92-year-old church leader whom members consider God's prophet on Earth, spoke during four of the five conference sessions, each time urging Latter-day Saints to embrace the example of Jesus Christ in becoming more responsible parents, spouses, friends and church members.

"We are deeply concerned over the quality of the lives of our people as husbands and wives, as children and parents," he said, noting there is "too much of criticism and faultfinding with anger and raised voices" in the homes of church members. Love for spouse and children, and the cultivation of gospel principles in the home — both in word and deed — is the highest responsibility Latter-day Saint men and women have in life, he said.

"We must work at our responsibilities as parents as if everything in life counted on it because, in fact, everything in life does count on it. If we fail in our homes, we fail in our lives. No man is truly successful who has failed in his home. I ask you men, particularly, to take stock of yourselves as husbands and fathers," roles that he said are "the most serious of all responsibilities, for the consequences of your leadership in your home will be eternal and everlasting."

His remarks followed an address by Elder F. Melvin Hammond of the Seventy, which was lauded by President Hinckley as a message that could end the conference. Speaking to LDS fathers, he said "every father in the church should function as the patriarch of his home. He should take the lead in spiritually guiding the family. He ought not to delegate nor abrogate his responsibilities to the mother. He should call for family prayer, family home evening, scripture reading and occasional father interviews."

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Nicholas Hale catches some rays as he listens to the Sunday afternoon session.



Johanna Workman, Deseret News

Saturday's priesthood session saw a few changes in church structure — modified missionary farewells, extension of temple recommend validity to two years — but in the main, the message of the conference was a call to to tighten up fundamental principles of truth, worthiness and dedication.

President Hinckley said the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, in a recent series of lengthy meetings examining all the programs of the church, have "taken the church apart and put it back together again," resulting in a more streamlined, focused effort.

The focus: getting members to do what they have already been counseled to do.

The church is "unique and wonderful," President Hinckley said, the only religion on Earth with priesthood authority to conduct the true work of God on the Earth. "Reflect upon it, my brethren and sisters. For centuries the heavens remained sealed. Good men and women, not a few — really great and wonderful people — tried to correct, strengthen and improve their systems of worship and their body of doctrine. To them I pay honor and respect. How much better the world is because of their bold action. While I believe that their work was inspired, it was not favored with the opening of the heavens, with the appearance of Deity."

Nevertheless, "we do not need to wear our religion on our sleeve," President Hinckley said. "We certainly do not need to be boastful about it, or to be arrogant in any way. Such becomes a negation of the spirit of the Christ whom we ought to try to emulate."

"What matters most (about conference) is what may have occurred within each of us as a result of our experience. I, for one, have made a stronger resolution within myself to be a better person than I have been in the past. I hope that I will be a little kinder to any I meet who may be in distress. I hope that I will be a little more helpful to those who are in need. I hope that I will be a little more worthy of your confidence."

Such a resolve on the part of a leader church members consider to be the epitome of dedication is "a great example for everybody," said Centerville resident Ted Olson, who watched the conference at home with his family.

"There is room for improvement in every life," President Hinckley said. "Regardless of our occupations, regardless of our circumstances, we can improve ourselves, and while so doing have an effect on the lives of those about us."

To do so, Latter-day Saints must have faith, repent, forgive and yield to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, said other speakers drawn from the general authorities and officers of the church.

Elder Joseph B. Wirthlin of the Quorum of the Twelve said members must reject modern standards of wisdom and instead follow the example of the widow who, having faith in the prophet Elijah, gave him bread from her meager store and was subsequently blessed with an abundance of food. "In the wisdom of our day, the widow's response may appear foolish and unwise. That is largely because we often learn to make decisions based upon what we see. . . . Your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."

Faith leads to repentance, which in turn unburdens those who have fallen into sin. "Repentance is a process of cleansing," said Elder Richard G. Scott of the Twelve. "It is difficult, but it has an end, a glorious end with peace and refreshing forgiveness and the miracle of a new beginning."

While continually striving to be cleaner and more worthy, Latter-day Saints must buttress those efforts by reaching out to others. Elders Dallin H. Oaks and Elder Henry B. Eyring of the Twelve both focused their talks on accepting and magnifying church callings, which provide ample opportunity for service.

"You are called to represent the Savior. . . ," Elder Eyring said. "Your calling is to bless lives. Your call has eternal consequences for others and for you. In the world to come, thousands may call your name blessed, even more than the people you serve here. They will be the ancestors and descendants of those who chose eternal life because of something you said or did, or even what you were." You may feel overwhelmed by the responsibilities, but "you need not fear, because with your call come great promises. . . . The Lord will guide you by revelation just as he called you."

The Holy Spirit will guide those who are sensitive to its promptings. Elder Kenneth Johnson of the Seventy noted that the light of Christ enlightens all people, not just Latter-day Saints. He spoke of receiving spiritual guidance when a boy, even though he knew nothing of the church or its doctrines.

"These stirrings within us originate from a divine source and, when followed, will help to keep us on course," he said.

Get back to basics, back to the important things in life, conference speakers urged. Those who feel harried with too many things to do in too little time should rethink their priorities. "As we seek with all our hearts to bring forth and establish Zion, the vexations of too little time will disappear," said Bishop Keith B. McMullin, second counselor in the Presiding Bishopric.

Bishop McMullin quoted Brigham Young: "You are in too much of a hurry; you do not go to meeting enough, you do not pray enough, you do not read the Scriptures enough, you do not meditate enough, you are all the time on the wing, and in such a hurry that you do not know what to do first." The God-given responsibilities of men and women are different, but both should be carried out with love and faith, leaders said.

"A woman of faith is fearless," said Sister Margaret D. Nadauld, former president of the Young Women's organization. "There is no ambiguity, no uncertain trump in her life. She can live a principled life because she studies the doctrine and teachings of a perfect teacher, the Master. She is a noble example to all who know her."


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1 posted on 10/08/2002 8:08:14 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: CubicleGuy; Logophile; T. P. Pole; Utah Girl; White Mountain; rising tide; scottiewottie; ...
The transcripts for October's General Conference will be online at lds.org Wednesday evening.
2 posted on 10/08/2002 9:31:21 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl; restornu; Wrigley; RnMomof7; Elsie; computerjunkie; CCWoody; CubicleGuy; Grig
***"Rise to the divinity within you."

That concluding statement by President Gordon B. Hinckley capsulized the messages that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints heard during the two-day, 172nd Semi-annual Conference of the church. ***

So it seems like Restornu's "we are gods in embryo form." is right down the center LDS doctrine!

I say when Hinckley steps down that restornu become the living prophet. However, I doubt they will consult me regarding Gordon's replacement...

3 posted on 10/08/2002 10:10:23 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
You don't believe you have divinity within you? President Hinckley is urging us to become better people.
4 posted on 10/08/2002 10:18:58 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: drstevej; Utah Girl
"Rise to the divinity within you." - President Hinckley

1 Corinthians 6:19
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

5 posted on 10/08/2002 10:45:20 PM PDT by White Mountain
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To: Utah Girl
"Saturday's priesthood session saw a few changes in church structure — modified missionary farewells, extension of temple recommend validity to two years — but in the main, the message of the conference was a call to to tighten up fundamental principles of truth, worthiness and dedication."

Were these inspired changes or just basic housekeeping changes to make life easier?

With a longer shelf life on the recommend, doesn't this put the individual further away from the sight of the local Bishop?
6 posted on 10/09/2002 4:14:11 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Utah Girl; P-Marlowe
"As man is, God once was.

As God is, man may become."

- Lorenzo Snow

Lorenzo Snow (1814-1901) was the fifth President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, from 1898 to 1901.

7 posted on 10/09/2002 4:55:43 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Utah Girl
I have a couple of LDS questions, and you seem to be the most vocal member here.

1) Can a couple on their second marriages (due to divorce) have a temple wedding?

2) Can a divorced man who has remarried become a bishop?

3) I know that there can be proxy baptism for the dead, but what about for the living?
8 posted on 10/09/2002 6:38:22 AM PDT by sharktrager
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To: drstevej; RnMomof7; Utah Girl; CubicleGuy; Grig; rising tide; White Mountain
Rise to the divinity within you."

I think to know that we here that are seperated from out home and creator these words should bring comfort and joy and tears, for we are a child of God, and he loves each and everyone of us.

The Lord wants us to keep learning more about our Father and read the scriptures study the NT and nurture the spirit of the Lord and as well other journals of his walks here upon the earth!

Matt. 5
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

"Rise to the divinity within you."

9 posted on 10/09/2002 7:03:54 AM PDT by restornu
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To: drstevej
God became man, so that man might become God. — Early Christian Proverb

Souls wherein the Spirit dwells, illuminated by the Spirit, themselves become spiritual, and send forth their grace to others. Hence comes . . . abiding in God, the being made like to God, and, highest of all, the being made God. — St. Basil the Great, On the Spirit

The Only-begotten Son of God, wanting us to be partakers of his divinity, assumed our human nature so that, having become man, he might make men gods. — St. Thomas Aquinas

(God) said that we were "gods" and He is going to make good His words. If we let Him — for we can prevent Him if we choose — He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess, dazzling, radiant, immortal creature, pulsating all through with such energy and joy and wisdom and love as we cannot now imagine, a bright stainless mirror which reflects back to God perfectly (though, of course, on a smaller scale) His own boundless power and delight and goodness. The process will be long and in parts very painful; but that is what we are in for. — C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity 174-5

10 posted on 10/09/2002 7:46:54 AM PDT by CubicleGuy
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*** If we let Him — for we can prevent Him if we choose — He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess***

So you are "gods in embryo form" after all. AND you will become a god if you don't choose to abort yourself!

At least it's clear now what Mormons believe.

Another question. Will the goddesses among you be just like Heavenly Mother? By this I mean will they be able to have spirit babies in the post-mortal Celestial Kingdom.
11 posted on 10/09/2002 8:08:50 AM PDT by drstevej
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Didn't realize CS Lewis was a Mormon.

Hint: I wouldn't read CS Lewis for theological precision. Like Joseph Smith, he was not a theologian.
12 posted on 10/09/2002 8:12:31 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Revelation 3:21: "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."
13 posted on 10/09/2002 8:36:17 AM PDT by CubicleGuy
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To: drstevej
Doctrine and Covenants 132:19-20:

19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever.

20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them.

14 posted on 10/09/2002 8:40:26 AM PDT by CubicleGuy
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To: sharktrager
"1) Can a couple on their second marriages (due to divorce) have a temple wedding? "

When a man's wife dies, he may marry again in the temple. If a woman's husband dies, she may get a 'till death to you part' marriage only (when the first marriage was in the temple). I'm not 100% sure about all situation involving divorce as it is rather uncommon, but my understanding is that a second marriage due to divorce can only be a temple marriage if the church revokes the first temple marriage, a legal divorce ends the 'for time' part, but not the 'all eternity' part. This is very very rare, usually only happens as a result of excommunication when ALL priesthood blessings are revoked, or some other extreem case.

"2) Can a divorced man who has remarried become a bishop?"

I honestly don't know what church policy is on this. I don't know of any case where I had a bishop with a previous marriage. If you hope to point to what is said about bishops in the Bible with reguard to this, we view that as a statement of policy, not doctrine. Policy can change at the Lord's command so if it happens to be the church has no rule forbidding a man has divorced and remarried from being a bishop, we would not see it as being any more of a problem than eating pork and having the Sabbath on Sunday instead of Saturday.

"3) I know that there can be proxy baptism for the dead, but what about for the living?"

Absolutly no proxy work for the living. No such thing in our book. If you want to be baptized, you have to risk the water being cold yourself. :)
15 posted on 10/09/2002 8:40:33 AM PDT by Grig
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NOT SO FAST STEVE YOU SKIPED OVER MY POST BECAUSE IT DOES NOT SUPPORT YOUR AGENDA IT COULD NOT BE CLEARER THAT YOU:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven

I QUOTED from Matt. 5
No diversion, JUST a clean and simple WORDS from the New Testament, TAHT talks to us in Jesus words!

I thankful to know that we here that are seperated from OUR home and creator, these words should bring comfort and joy and tears, for we are a child of God, and he loves each and everyone of us. The Lord wants us to keep learning more about our Father and read the scriptures study the NT and nurture the spirit of the Lord and as well other journals of his walks here upon the earth!

MATTHEW 5; 44-49

16 posted on 10/09/2002 8:42:02 AM PDT by restornu
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Thank you for your reply. I have one other question. I understand that the profits will sometimes set policies which are not due to divine inspiration. How does a profit know if he is making a decision based on revelation instead of his own opinion, or does he?
17 posted on 10/09/2002 8:44:04 AM PDT by sharktrager
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To: drstevej
Hint: I wouldn't read CS Lewis for theological precision.

Hint: I don't read drstevej for theological precision, that's for sure.

18 posted on 10/09/2002 8:46:25 AM PDT by CubicleGuy
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To: drstevej
Another question. Will the goddesses among you be just like Heavenly Mother? By this I mean will they be able to have spirit babies in the post-mortal Celestial Kingdom.

***

It also means those who losted children here on earth may also to sealed to them in the temple for all eternity!

19 posted on 10/09/2002 8:46:44 AM PDT by restornu
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To: sharktrager
"I understand that the profits will sometimes set policies which are not due to divine inspiration. How does a profit know if he is making a decision based on revelation instead of his own opinion, or does he?"

I assume you meant prophet.
I think you misunderstand the nature of revelation. Revelation is not intended to be a tool to replace wisdom and judgement. Sometimes God has to take the initative to tell us something we otherwise wouldn't know to do, but those are exceptions. In matters of policy it is the responsibility of the general authorites to study things out and come to the best conclusion they can on their own, then take that conculsion to God and get confirmation of it. That confirmation doesn't need to be a massive visitation of some kind. It could be, or it could simply be the voice of the Lord in their heart letting them know if thier decision is approved of God or not. That could happen with you right there and you not know it. In this way they gain the experience and understanding that comes from putting their own efforts into it, without messing things up by deciding things not approved by God. The fact that they employ their own skills to it first doesn't mean that the result is without divine inspiration.

The question of how they know when they recieve revelation is a valid one to ask, but it isn't something that can really be answered in words. How could you tell a person blind from birth how you are able to tell a red ball appart from a blue ball when they are both on the other side of the room? Not all knowledge can be put into words and in this case I think the best I can do is say that when God reveals something to you, you know it. Every memeber of the church who is faithfull experiences personal revelations on some level, we seek the same divine inspiration to guide our own lives and to fulfill our own responsibilites. Any member who lives worthy is just as entitled to revelation to guide them in the area of their 'jurisdiction' as the prophet is in his. I can tell you myself, from my own experience that it is real.
20 posted on 10/09/2002 9:19:55 AM PDT by Grig
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