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You can't resist the potshots. If by the "real errors of schismatic traditionalists" you are referring to Lefebvre and his followers, show me where the errors are. They saw what was happening very clearly, they understood it was an attempt to institute a new protestantized religion which would do immeasurable harm to the Church, and they resisted its imposition. How were they wrong? They were persecuted for their pains by a pope who saw no further than his nose. Lefebvre correctly refused to obey an improper command which would have damaged the Church irreparably. Thanks to his courage and foresight, tradition is now intact and spreading throughout the world even as the Novus Ordo Church collapses in its own multiple corruptions.

You can't resist the potshots. If by the "real errors of schismatic traditionalists"

You are such a knee jerk reactionary.

I was referring to the real errors of the schismatics (denial of the validity of the Novus Ordo, sedevacantism), as opposed to what many "neoconservatives" here and elsewhere think are errors but are simply erroneous criticisms of valid traditionalism.

You folks might have some allies in your battles if you didn't turn them all off by your repulsive behavior and knee jerk attacks. You acribe motives unjustly and jump to incorrect conclusions ---such as this--- because of your obsession with finding monsters where they simply do not exist, or desire to turn good decent orthodox Catholics into the monsters of your nightmares.

by your repulsive behavior and knee jerk attacks.

By the way, just to reiterate...I'm not exactly "taking sides" in putting forward this criticism. I think it can be applied equally to the schismatics as well as the neoconservatives that fight them.

I think Steve Hand's polemics are just as repulsive and knee jerk. I think the attacks on Sungenis have been just as repulsive.

The "We Resist You To the Face" folks can handle it...they dish it out just as much as they are the subject of it.

The liberals ---heck, the DEVIL--- are thrilled by this bloodletting between "traditionalists" and conservatives, and the problem is the blurring of distinctions between "traditionalists" and "integrists" on the one hand, and "conservatives" and "neoconservatives" on the other.

Integrists (what a useless word, I admit!) as well as neoconservatives are equally guilty of repulsive behavior and knee jerk attacks.

I am too.

But these behaviors are counterproductive no matter which camp engages in them.