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Alert Umma there is a 90% chance that we will see the Jewish Dajjal in our lifetime
clearguidance.com | 10/18/2002 | clearguidance

Posted on 10/18/2002 12:50:49 AM PDT by ganesha

ALERT Ummah!!!there is 90% chance that we will see the Jewish Dajjal in our lifetime!

dear brethren and sisters, I draw your your attention to something very Important. We are living at the end of times. we are already experiencing the minor signs of judgement day that preceed the appearance of the Major signs. Once these minor signs finish--know that 95% of these signs have already come to pass-- we will be encountering the Major signs immediately. One of these first signs amongst the Major ones is appearance of the Jewish Anti Christ or the Masih ad-Dajjal. The affliction of this Jewish Messiah is so great that none from the times of Prophet Adam till the day of resurrection have or will create and spread that much affliction. His affliction will be so dangerous and so harmful that there is no Prophet of God who did not warn his ummah about the coming of this person. the Dajjal will be able to deceive the very elect, the very pious, the one who thinks he has faith in his/her heart. this generation is very very close to meet the Dajjal. Why? Because there are two specific signs that will appear in Madina as reported by the Prophet Muhammad, which will mark that the time for the appearance of Dajjal is nigh. And these two Signs have already appeared!!!!!! Here we provide to you the two specific traditions: Narrated Abdullah ibn Shafeeq who reported from Muhjin ibn Adraa who reported that the Prophet(saw) said, "The End/finish/khalaas day, and What do you know what the khalaas days is--the prophet repeats the same statement 3 times.Some one asked him, "what is the day of Khalaas?". The Prophet then answered, "The Dajjal will come and will climb and will see Madina and then he will say to his companions, "Do you see that White Palace?That is the Mosque of Ahmad--another name of Prophet Muhammad--", Afterwards the Dajjal will come to Madina but will find that by its each entrance there is an armed angel ( who would not allow him entry)......afterwards Madina will shake 3 times and there will not remain a hypocrite male or female nor will there remain a fasiq male or female who would not go out to the Dajjal (to join him), and that is the day of khalaas.(An authentic tradition reported with a sahih isnad reported by Sheikh Mustafa Adwi in his work Al-Fitan wal Malaahim wa Asraatus S'aa) source: http://www.raddadi.com/madinah/madinah.htm During the time of the prophet the Masjidun Nabawi or the Mosque of Ahmad was very simple as it was built of mud bricks and had date leaves as its covering for the roof. It was just recently in our era that the Mosque of Prophet was expanded and was given a very grand and beautiful structure. Anyone who has travelled to Madina in recent times will confirm that upon reaching the vacinities of this holy city, the Mosque of the Prophet appears as a pearl or as a palace amongst other building from a far. Muslims take this as an awakening token, Wake and think seriously, the other sign the prophet fortold regarding the closeness of Dajjal's appearance is that Madina at that time--at the time of Dajjal's appearance --will have 7 main entrances:

The Prophet said, "The terror caused by Al-Masih Ad-Dajjal will not enter Medina and at that time Medina will have seven gates and there will be two angels at each gate (guarding them).(Sahih Bukhari: Book of afflictions, Volume 9, Book 88, Number 240) Just look at the recent Map of Madinah city, if you find one, and you will see that there are 7 main entrances today leading to the city. One road coming from Jeddah, the other coming from Makkah, another coming from Rabigh, one from the airport, another from Tabouk, and two from surrounding areas. Muslims get up, Know the Jews better, Avoid them, Be prepared to face them intellectually, politically,economically and military wise. Please memorize the 10 first verse of surah kahf as well as the last 10 verse. Doing such protects you from the affliction of Dajjal as the Prophet said. Always recite this Du'a or supplication in prayer when your are finishing after saying tashahud:

Allahuma inni Aoudu Bikka Min Adabil Qabr, Wa Min Azabi Jahanum, Wa Min Fitnatil Mahyaie wal Mamat wa mein fitnatil Masih ad Dajjal According to the saying of the Prophet reciting this in prayer will protect one from the affliction of Dajjal.

__________________ Such were our Salaaf-Such were their reliance on God: Qays ibn Abî Hâzim says: I saw poison being brought to Khâlid ibn alWaleed, and it was asked, “What is this?” The answer was given, “It is poison.” He said, “Bismillâh” and drank it. I said, “By Allâh, this is a miracle, this is true courage.” Abu’s-Safar says: Khâlid ibn al waleed stayed in al-Hîrah at the house of the mother of the Banû Marâzibah. They said, “Be on your guard against the Persians, lest they poison you.” He said, “Bring it to me.” He took it and said, “Bismillâh”, and did him no harm.(Siyar Alaam an Nabula by ad-Dhahabi)

When Saad ibn Abi Waqas reached the banks of the flooded deep adDijla river he commanded his army to march. So his army began crossing on the surface the river as if it was crossing on land. The Persians did not believe their eyes and cried out"Diwan!!!, Diwan!!!By God we are not fighting humans but Jinns"They abandoned their capital Madaain to the victorious Islamic army.

Oh My Ummah rejoice and be patient for we are to be superpowers again! Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-Aas said, "While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heraclius will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.'' [Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Also, see As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, vol. 1] History is a witness that Constantinople or Istanbul was conquered by Sultan Mehmet al Fatih al Uthmani. However Rome was never captured. This will happen in the near future when once again Muslims will have prestige and glory.

Allah's Apostle said,"The Earth was shown to me until i saw the east of the east and the west of the west[cant recall the order], and the authority of my ummah dominated all what I saw."{Muslim-Ahmad] During the time of the prophet the east of the east was china and the west of the west was France. history is a witness that the Islamic conquest did not reach that far. However this will happen in the near future inshallah when once again God honors Muslims.

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Registered: Aug 2002 Location: AlJazeeratul Arabiyaah Posts: 51 Another tradition that points that Dajjal will appear in the very near future is the one reported in Mishkat al Masabeeh, vol.3 which states that the Dajjal will be riding ona white donkey made of iron whose span between its two ears is 40 cubits and in another authentic narration it has been reported that when asked what the Dajjal's speed will be like the Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have replied: "Like a wind that leaves a cloud in its trail."[Sahih Muslim] Imagine what could an iron donkey having 40 cubits of span between its two ears and a speed of wind the leaves a cloud in trails would be? It is an aeroplane!!!!!!!!! this is how the prophet described it 1400 years ago to an illiterate bedouin nation

__________________ Such were our Salaaf-Such were their reliance on God: Qays ibn Abî Hâzim says: I saw poison being brought to Khâlid ibn alWaleed, and it was asked, “What is this?” The answer was given, “It is poison.” He said, “Bismillâh” and drank it. I said, “By Allâh, this is a miracle, this is true courage.” Abu’s-Safar says: Khâlid ibn al waleed stayed in al-Hîrah at the house of the mother of the Banû Marâzibah. They said, “Be on your guard against the Persians, lest they poison you.” He said, “Bring it to me.” He took it and said, “Bismillâh”, and did him no harm.(Siyar Alaam an Nabula by ad-Dhahabi)

When Saad ibn Abi Waqas reached the banks of the flooded deep adDijla river he commanded his army to march. So his army began crossing on the surface the river as if it was crossing on land. The Persians did not believe their eyes and cried out"Diwan!!!, Diwan!!!By God we are not fighting humans but Jinns"They abandoned their capital Madaain to the victorious Islamic army.

Oh My Ummah rejoice and be patient for we are to be superpowers again! Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-Aas said, "While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heraclius will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.'' [Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Also, see As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, vol. 1] History is a witness that Constantinople or Istanbul was conquered by Sultan Mehmet al Fatih al Uthmani. However Rome was never captured. This will happen in the near future when once again Muslims will have prestige and glory.

Allah's Apostle said,"The Earth was shown to me until i saw the east of the east and the west of the west[cant recall the order], and the authority of my ummah dominated all what I saw."{Muslim-Ahmad] During the time of the prophet the east of the east was china and the west of the west was France. history is a witness that the Islamic conquest did not reach that far. However this will happen in the near future inshallah when once again God honors Muslims.

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ghazi Asalamulaikum

Registered: May 2002 Location: Posts: 651 Asalamulaikum Waramatullahi Wabarakathu,

quote: the Dajjal will be able to deceive the very elect, the very pious, the one who thinks he has faith in his/her heart.

Subhanallah, I fear this is already happening. Today we see very pious and much more knowledgable people than us in this deen siding with America and the other oppressive nations against Islam!

Subhanallah brother, that was a very big eye opener I have never heard of those hadith before. What is the status of them?

May Allah SWT protect us from the fitnah of Ad-Dajjal. Ameen.


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1 posted on 10/18/2002 12:50:50 AM PDT by ganesha
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To: ganesha
However Rome was never captured. This will happen in the near future when once again Muslims will have prestige and glory.

If the barbarian Mohammedians ever capture Rome( by immigration maybe) I will personally organize a crusade. I don't know how but ill do it and no im not catholic or even christian.

2 posted on 10/18/2002 12:55:55 AM PDT by weikel
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To: ganesha
This is a weird thread that I found posted at clearguidance.com the jehadi islamic youth forum which recently came back after being shut down by simokyfed.com for several days.
3 posted on 10/18/2002 12:57:40 AM PDT by ganesha
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To: ganesha
Wanna give us the abridged version of this story?
4 posted on 10/18/2002 12:57:46 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
I agree with Monkeyshine. Let's get an interpretation of the airplanes, clouds, and poison. This religion of peace is hard to decipher at times.
5 posted on 10/18/2002 1:07:29 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: monkeyshine
I can give you a link to the thread I copied if that helps.
6 posted on 10/18/2002 1:12:33 AM PDT by ganesha
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To: ganesha
Well, on the link you gave us, I found THIS LINK:
http://www.raddadi.com/madinah/madinah.htm

What are we looking at on this page?
7 posted on 10/18/2002 1:15:35 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: ganesha
reported by the Prophet Muhammad

Prophet? Lately I've been wondering if HE was the Anti-Christ.

8 posted on 10/18/2002 1:16:16 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: ganesha
the time for the appearance of Dajjal is nigh.

You rang?

9 posted on 10/18/2002 1:21:22 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Cindy
I think it's supposed to be an aerial photo of what Madina Saudi Arabia will look like on judgement day.
10 posted on 10/18/2002 1:55:42 AM PDT by ganesha
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To: Dajjal
LOL the end is near!!!
11 posted on 10/18/2002 2:02:28 AM PDT by ganesha
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To: ganesha; drstevej; RnMomof7; Jerry_M; the_doc; theAmbassador; OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; ...
eschatology bump! We all have it wrong evidently. ganesha has the real scoop.

You did post this as a joke, right?
12 posted on 10/18/2002 1:32:54 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody; xzins; RnMomof7; jude24
***We are living at the end of times. we are already experiencing the minor signs of judgement day that preceed the appearance of the Major signs. Once these minor signs finish--know that 95% of these signs have already come to pass-- we will be encountering the Major signs immediately. One of these first signs amongst the Major ones is appearance of the Jewish Anti Christ or the Masih ad-Dajjal.***

Looks like they've been reading Left Behind in the mosque.
13 posted on 10/18/2002 1:44:47 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Does this have anything to do with the 'Red Heifer'?


14 posted on 10/18/2002 2:12:50 PM PDT by lockeliberty
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To: drstevej
Looks like they've been reading Left Behind in the mosque.


LOL I am linking this to the endtime thread..woody MUST have an opinion:>)
15 posted on 10/18/2002 2:36:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dajjal
What does your name mean?
16 posted on 10/18/2002 3:11:37 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: CCWoody
This is not a joke.

Repeat, this is not a joke.

This is the reason 9-11 happened.

This is the theological underpinning of 9-11.

Think of Osama Bin Laden as a Muslim David Koresh and you will begin to get the picture.

17 posted on 10/18/2002 5:30:20 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: RnMomof7
I am Dajjal. You are Dajjal. We are all Dajjal. Goo goo g'joob.
18 posted on 10/18/2002 5:30:40 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: lockeliberty; drstevej
No heifers. No "left behind." You've got the wrong apocalyptic scripture. Read the Hadith.
19 posted on 10/18/2002 5:53:49 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
***Read the Hadith***

Right after I finish The Hobbit.
20 posted on 10/18/2002 6:17:19 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: CCWoody; Dajjal; lockeliberty; drstevej; RnMomof7
After cg came back I decided to search the site for anything that might be interesting before it got shut down again. The dajjal story caught my eye because I have been reading "The End of Days ,Fundamentalism and the struggle for the Temple Mount" by Gershom Gorenberg.

The thing about the red heifer comes from a mistranslation of the Bible. At the time the King James Version Bible was translated, the word "cattle" meant any livestock not just cows. The Hebrew word it was translated from only referred to sheep or goats, not cows. The people who are breeding red cows don't realize this point.

In the Muslim version of the story, the Jewish Mesiah and the antichrist are the same person who is called "Dajjal". He will arrive from the east leading an army of jews. Jesus will then fight a battle against dajjal and defeat him. Afterward, Jesus will break all crosses, kill all pigs, and make Islam the worlds only religious faith. The dead will be raised up and all humanity will be gathered to be judged by Allah in the valley of Jehosafat outside the walls of Jerusalem. In some versions of the story Jesus is shares his role as redeemer with a figure called the mahdi.

People who believed they were following the mahdi engaged in a revolt against the British Empire in the Sudan in the nineteenth century. Several movies have been made about this, the most recent of which was "The Four Feathers"

When Muhammed founded Islam he believed that the end of the world was near. He is quoted as saying, "Behold! God sent me with a sword, just before the Hour, and placed my daily sustenance beneath the shadow of my spear, and humiliation and contempt upon those who oppose me." The warriors who spread Islam believed that it was their duty to conquer the world before the Last Day and that not much time was left.




21 posted on 10/19/2002 12:47:51 PM PDT by ganesha
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To: drstevej; Dajjal
Muslims don't ignore the part about the red cow. In "Deflecting the Arrows from the Book" by Amin Jamal al Din , "the red cow...born recently in Haifa in what they call Israel" portends that the coming of the antichrist "is an arrows shot away or closer". When the cow "reaches its full development in the third year of its life, it will be sacrificed at the Temple of Solomon, and the person who will do this will be their king, their redeemer, the Antichrist."
22 posted on 10/19/2002 12:59:06 PM PDT by ganesha
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To: ganesha
*** Afterward, Jesus will break all crosses, kill all pigs, and make Islam the worlds only religious faith. ***

Is "pigs" in this statement a reference to Christians and Jews? Islam sure is peaceful.
23 posted on 10/19/2002 1:04:14 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
I don't know. It could mean that the world will be purified and therefore nothing which is unclean will remain. In sura 5 verse 60 the koran does speak of Allah turning people into pigs and swine.

Say: "Shall I inform you who will receive the worst chastisement from God? They who were condemned by God and on whom fell his wrath, and those who were turned to apes and swine, and those who worship the powers of evil. They are in the wors gradation and farthest away from the right path."
24 posted on 10/19/2002 1:53:25 PM PDT by ganesha
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To: drstevej
Is "pigs" in this statement a reference to Christians and Jews? Islam sure is peaceful.

Here's a slightly different interpretation of the paragraph: since Islam is an epitome not only of peace, but of tolerance too, they'll need that many pigs to feast on celebrating the coming of their mahdi or what's-his-name in their mumbo-jumbo...

25 posted on 10/19/2002 2:11:48 PM PDT by Neophyte
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To: ganesha; monkeyshine; Cindy; patriciaruth; CCWoody; lockeliberty; drstevej; RnMomof7; Neophyte; ...
In the Muslim version of the story,... Jesus will then fight a battle against dajjal and defeat him.... In some versions of the story Jesus is shares his role as redeemer with a figure called the mahdi.

It's the other way around. The Mahdi is the major character, and Jesus is in the supporting cast. The Mahdi comes to save the world from the Dajjal, Jesus joins him, subordinates himself to the Mahdi, and fights at the Mahdi's side. The Mahdi is a direct descendent of Mohammed, and is the purist Muslim since Mohammed. The Mahdi kills the Dajjal and all infidels everywhere (that means us), and governs the world in perfect shar'ia until the Day of Judgment. Some hadith seem to say that Jesus gets to strike the fatal blow against the Dajjal.

Jesus also chastises his so-called followers (the ones who believe in the Trinity). He breaks their crosses, kills their pigs, and levels their churches. He chastises the Jews for not recognizing him as the Messiah. He helps the Mahdi convert the world to Islam (or kill the stubborn).

The Dajjal is the greatest evil to threaten the earth since the serpent of Eden. Traditional Islam taught that he would be a one-eyed giant. But since the 1980's imams have been teaching that "one-eyed giant" could be an allegory for a powerful nation or a culture. Folks, that means you and me.

These beliefs are commonly accepted throughout the Muslim world. Not every Muslim believes that the United States or Western Culture is the Dajjal and that the Mahdi's appearance is at hand -- but this belief is extremely popular and widespread throughout the globe. And a handful of Muslims are willing to take the next step and enlist in the war against the Dajjal.

These people are signing up for the Mahdi's and Jesus' army, and believe that their scripture guarantees them a glorious victory over us. They believe this is the final battle before the Last Day. This is why they have no fear of the might and power of the U.S. Armed Forces. That is why they have no need for a future.

This is what Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld have not told you yet. This is not about politics or economics or even religious ideology. This is about the great battle where all non-Muslims are killed, and Islam covers the globe.

Do a google search on any of the key words and see what you find. Look up Prof. David Cook while you're at it.

26 posted on 10/20/2002 4:57:55 AM PDT by Dajjal
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They believe this is the final battle before the Last Day

In this respect, they might be right.

Pinging to an "interesting" thread...

27 posted on 10/20/2002 6:00:37 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Dajjal
believe that their scripture guarantees them a glorious victory over us

Excellent. Since a victory is guaranteed, the bullshit Muslim machos don't bother to do anything in order to bring it over. Tough luck, guys.

It's the same "philosophy" that stops them from taking care of the sewage for instance. As a result, the whole glorious world of Islam stinks to heavens. I presume, the Allah's paradise with all female and male virgins promised to the fidels would also divinely stink... if it existed.

28 posted on 10/20/2002 6:08:39 AM PDT by Neophyte
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To: Neophyte
the bullshit Muslim machos don't bother to do anything in order to bring it over.

Tell that to the families of the people who died on 9/11, or on the USS Cole, or from the suicide bombers in Israel, or in Bali a week ago.

29 posted on 10/20/2002 6:55:00 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: ganesha
Muslims don't ignore the part about the red cow.

Sinch the Muslims accept the OT and NT as valid scripture, the imams will mention the red heifer when they integrate Jewish and Christian prophecies with their own.

But, to the best of my knowledge, the red heifer is not one of the Signs of Qiyamah prophesied by Mohammed in the Hadith.

30 posted on 10/20/2002 7:11:19 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
Tell that to the families of the people who died

A killing spree isn't something new for the Islamofascists... but this will not lead them to a victory. Quite the opposite: this time they'd bitten more than they can swallow. They are doomed.

31 posted on 10/20/2002 7:25:31 AM PDT by Neophyte
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To: Dajjal
He chastises the Jews for not recognizing him as the Messiah.

I didn't think the Muslims believed Jesus to be the Messiah. I know they consider him a great prophet perhaps second in importance to Mohammed but obiviously not the Messiah in the christian sense or the jewish sense. What are the characteristics of the Mahdi in the Muslim legends?

Thanks for the info and cool screen name.

32 posted on 10/20/2002 8:34:10 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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To: Polycarp
I had read the article..I did not know what a dajjal was..but if it be THAT day or not..the fact THEY think it is is very...dangerous to Christians and Jews..May the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob watch over all of us..
33 posted on 10/20/2002 12:56:28 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dajjal
What about the black flags from Khorasan.....
34 posted on 10/20/2002 1:20:05 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: lockeliberty
Does this have anything to do with the 'Red Heifer'?

Or the ashes thereof.....

35 posted on 10/20/2002 1:26:49 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Dajjal
This is what Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld have not told you yet.

Thanks. Very informative. It's better to know what makes them tick than not.

The reason that the sheeple will never hear about this is that the liberals who populate the media cannot accept as a logical possibility that people can be motivated by religious belief. Ultimately for them, all conflict must be based on some kind of class struggle.

36 posted on 10/20/2002 2:20:11 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: ganesha
You need to lay off that beladonna, son, it's addled your mind and you're hallucinating!
Just for the record, the end has been nigh for all of recorded history. Even back in the ancient Egyptian and Babylonian cultures, they had these sad saps wandering around wailing about the "end of time." Don't hold or breath. I put it in the same category as Californian falling into the ocean, global warming and the Milleniium Bug. I have no plans to cancel my life insurance and sell the house.
37 posted on 10/20/2002 4:04:43 PM PDT by FrankC
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To: Dajjal
I've done a little bit of research on al-Mahdi, too. Part of the legend/prophecy is that al-Mahdi's army will come from the area of Afghanistan, will have a black flag as its standard, and will not be stopped before it reaches Jerusalem.

There exists a photograph of bin Laden at a news conference, and the backdrop is a black flag. I personally think bin Laden's organization thinks it is part of the al-Mahdi movement.

The Islamists see this war on an entirely different plane than we do - it is a holy war. In this situation it's not a problem for a Muslim engaged in jihad against the infidel to lie or deceive the enemy.

We're the Crusaders and the Jews, and if we don't convert then they'd like to kill us, plain and simple. Whether you're working in an office building, carrying a rifle or pumping gas, you are a target.

Have a nice day.

38 posted on 10/20/2002 6:11:18 PM PDT by Bosco
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To: Bosco
I have no problem believing that the Muslims are engaged in holy war. I'm of the opinion that it's a war of anniliation.
We best be getting to it then.
39 posted on 10/20/2002 7:33:01 PM PDT by STD
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To: Bosco; Siobhan
What about the black flags from Khorasan.....
34 posted on 10/20/02 1:20 PM Pacific by Siobhan

Part of the legend/prophecy is that al-Mahdi's army will come from the area of Afghanistan, will have a black flag as its standard, and will not be stopped before it reaches Jerusalem.
There exists a photograph of bin Laden at a news conference, and the backdrop is a black flag. I personally think bin Laden's organization thinks it is part of the al-Mahdi movement.
38 posted on 10/20/02 6:11 PM Pacific by Bosco

Bosco: Absolutely!

Siobhan: Khorasan = Afghanistan. Mohammed had two flags: a white flag for the Islamic State, and a black flag for Jihad. One of the Signs of Qiyamah is that an army from Khorasan will ride before the Mahdi and conquer territory and peoples in his name.

40 posted on 10/20/2002 9:40:53 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Aquinasfan
You are right as usual, Aquinasfan. They are so emeshed in the Marxist critique that they are without the faculties of common sense and the logic native to each human being's nature. They are truly lost within their PC-driven world where death="choice" and the role of woman is written backwards in the blood of murdered children.
41 posted on 10/20/2002 9:50:03 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: lockeliberty
What are the characteristics of the Mahdi in the Muslim legends?

In the Hadith, Mohammed says that the Mahdi will "fill the Earth with justice as it has been filled with corruption."

"Hadhrat Abu Saeed Khudri (R.A.) compares that Rasulullah (S.A.W) said, 'Al Mahdi will be from my progeny. His forehead will be broad and his nose will be high. He will fill the world with justice and fairness at a time when the world will be filled with oppression. He will rule for seven years.'"
[some say seventy years --Dajjal]

"Other hadeeth tell us the description!, of Imam Mahdi (A.S): -He will be tall -He will be fair complexioned -His facial features will be similar to those of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) -His character will be exactly like that of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) -His father's name will be Abdullah -His mother's name will be A'amina -He will speak with a slight stutter and occasionally this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh. -His age at the time of his emergence will be forty years -He will receive Knowledge from Allah. -His Emergence and Rule"

42 posted on 10/20/2002 11:53:20 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: ganesha; monkeyshine; Cindy; patriciaruth; CCWoody; lockeliberty; drstevej; RnMomof7; Aquinasfan; ..
There are several laundry lists of the Signs of Qiyamah compiled by various people from the Hadith. Here is one of them.

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Signs before the day of Judgement

1. People will neglect their prayers.
2. People will follow their own views.
3. Their desires will supercede the commands of Allah
4. They will sell the religion for worldly benefits.
5. The rulers will be tyrants, ministers will be transgressors and trustees will be embezzlers.
6. Evil will become virtue and Virtue will become evil in the eyes of people.
7. embezzlers will be trusted, and the trustworthy will be thought untrustworthy; and liars will be vouchsafed, and the truthful ones vill be considered liars.
8. Women will be rulers and concubines will be consulted; (this ma mean the government of women or domination of women over their husband - so much so that the husbands will not, or can not, ask them to remain within the limits of sheriah, leaving them to go where ever the want in whatever cloths they like.
9. Children will sit on the mimber. (this may mean unworthy people will take to mimber.)
10. Lying will be considered clever; Zakaat will be (disliked) as fines.
11. Man will be tyrant to parents and generous to friends; and at that time comets will appear.
12. women will become partners in her husbands trade.
13. Rain will be very Hot.
14. Virtuous people will remain sorrowful. Poor will be dishonoured.
15. Rulers will be harsh tyrants.
16. Ummah will be dyed the the goods of east and west.
17. Males will satisfy their lust with males and females will satisfy their lust with females.
18. Minor boys will be mounted upon as women.
19. Males will liken them selves to women and females will look like males.
20. Females will ride saddles (vehicles) There will be the curse of Allah upon the Women of the Ummah.
21. Mosques will be decorated as synagogues and cathedrals; Quran will be beautified, and minarets will be high.
22. The lines of people standing in prayers will increase but their heart will hate each other and their talks will differ from each other.
23. Men will use golden ornaments, and wear silk, and will use cheetah's skin.
24. dealing in interest will appear every where, people will deal with backbiting and bribe.
25. religion will be suppressed and world (worldly affair) raised.
26. Divorce will be on the increase, and hudud (Islamic punishment) will not be administered.
27. At that time the musical instruments and women singers will appear (practiced openly).
28. At that time the rulers will be the worst of the Ummah.
29. Rich of the Ummah will go to hajj (pilgrimage) for recreation, middle class will go for trade and the poor will go to show off.
30. People will learn Quran for reasons other than Allah.
31. Religion will be studied for reasons other than Allah.
32. Honours will be defiled, sins will be openly comited, Evil people will have authority upon the good people.
33. Lies will be prevelent, and disputes will appear.
34. Poverty will be widespread and people will be proud of their cloths.
35. There will be rains at the wrong times.
36. People will kine chess, gambling apparatus, musical instruments; and will dislike enjoining good and forbidding evil so much that the true believer will be respected less then the slave girl.
37. Reciters (of quran) and worshipers will blame each other. Those will be the people who will be called unclean and filthy in the kingdom of heaven.
38. Rich will not be afraid (of any thing) except the poor so much that the poor will go continue begging for two fridays without recieving anything.
39. At that time will talk 'Ruwaibidhah' (Such people will talk about public affairs, who had not talked about such matters before. Than in a short time chaos will appear upon the earth and every nation will think that chaos was only in their land. (but it will cover the whole world.)
40. People will remain in this condition for as long as Allah wishes. Earth will throw out pieces of its heart - gold, silver and other minerals the size of pillars, but neither gold nor silver will be of any benefit to anyone.
41. Kufr (disbelievers) and Munafikat (hypocrites) will be prevelent before the coming of the day of judgement.
42. People will become Kafir (dis-believers) because of poverty and need.

43 posted on 10/21/2002 12:19:56 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: ganesha; monkeyshine; Cindy; patriciaruth; CCWoody; lockeliberty; drstevej; RnMomof7; Aquinasfan; ..
Here is another list.

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Signs of the Last Hour

(from Ashraatus-Saa'ah of Yoosuf ibn Abdillaah ibn Yoosuf al-Waabil)
[English Translation by Daawood ibn Ronald Burbank]

A. The Minor Signs.

1.The Prophethood of Muhammad (sas)
2.The death of the Prophet (sas)
3. The conquering of Bait ul-Maqdis
4.The Plague of Amwaas (in Palestine)
5.The increase in wealth so that sadaqah is not needed
6.Trials and civil strife:
(i) The appearance of troubles in the east
(ii) The killing of Uthmaan (ra)
(iii) The battle of al-Jamaal
(iv) The battle of Siffeen
(v) The appearance of the Khawaarij
(vi) The happening of al-Harrah
(vii) The appearance of the saying that the Quran is created
(viii) The following of the ways of the previous nations
7.The appearance of claimants to Prophethood
8.Widespread safety
9.The appearance of fire in the Hijaz
10.Fighting the Turks
11.Fighting the non-Arabs
12.Dissappearance of trustworthiness
13.Dissappearance of knowledge and appearance of ignorance
14.Increase in the number of police and helpers of the oppressors
15.Spread of fornication
16.Spread of usury
17.Spread of musical instruments and their being thought to be allowed
18.Drinking of intoxicants and its being allowed
19.Adorning the mosques and rivalling therein
20.Building tall buildings
21.The slave girls giving birth to her mistress
22.Increase in killing
23.Time passing quickly
24.Coming together of markets
25.Appearance of Shirk in this Ummah
26.Appearance of wickedness, cutting off of relations and ill treatment of neighbours
27.Dying of grey hairs with black dye
28.Increase of extreme miserliness
29.Increase in trade
30.Many earthquakes
31.Appearance of sinking into the earth, transformation into animals and false-accusations
32.The passing away of the pious
33.The raising of the despicable people to positions of importance
34.That greeting is given only to those the person knows
35.That knowledge is sought from other than the scholars in truth
36.Appearance of women in clothes which do not cover them
37.The truthfulness of the dreams of the Believers
38.Spread and increase in writing
39.Laxity with regard to the Sunnah
40.Increase in size of the new moons
41.Increase in falsehood and having no concern to check reports
42.Increase in false testimony and witholding true witness
43.Large number of women and small number of men
44.Sudden death being common
45.Hatred amongst peoples hearts
46.The return of the land of the Arabs to being pastures and rivers
47.Increase in rain but decrease in produce
48.The revealing of a mountain of gold by the Euphrates river
49.The talking of wild animals and inanimate objects to people
50.Wishing for death because of the severity of trials
51.Increase in the number of 'Romans' and their fighting the muslims
52.Victory over Constantinople
53.The appearance of al-Qahtaanee
54.Fighting the Jews
55.The expelling by al-Madeenah of its wicked people, then its desolation at the end of time
56.The sending of a pleasant wind to take away the souls of the Believers
57.The attacking of the Sacred House and dismantling of the Ka'bah

B. The Major Signs

a.The Mahdi
b.The Anti-Christ [Maseeh ud-Dajjal]
c.The descent of 'Isaa = Jesus (as)
d.Yajooj and Maajooj
e.The three great sinkings of the earth
f.The appearance of smoke in the sky
g.The rising of the sun in the west
h.The beast of the earth [Daabbat ul-Ard]
i.The fire which brings the people together

44 posted on 10/21/2002 12:38:19 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: ganesha; monkeyshine; Cindy; patriciaruth; CCWoody; lockeliberty; drstevej; RnMomof7; Aquinasfan; ..
It wasn't in either of those lists, but another societal Sign of Qiyamah is that women will rip the infants from their wombs.

The Hadith also go on in detail about natural disasters Mohammed predicted, as well as various battles.

45 posted on 10/21/2002 12:45:34 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: lockeliberty
I forgot to mention in that "Mahdi" post that the Sunnis, Shi'ites, Sufis, and Ba'hai all have different interpretations of what type of person the Mahdi will be. The Sunnis believe he will re-establish the Caliphate, perhaps being the reincarnation of the Fourth Caliph. The Shi'ites believe that the Mahdi will be the Twelfth Great Imam, who vanished as a child (amongst political strife) because Allah has been hiding him from human view SINCE THE NINTH CENTURY A.D. (I kid you not). When the time is right, the Twelfth Imam will return to men's eyes, still appearing youthful, to lead the war against the Dajjal.

For the Sufis and Ba'hai, the Mahdi will not kill his opponents, but through peaceful yet powerful preaching will "kill" the deceitfulness and infidelism in the Dajjal and his followers, convincing them to accept Islamic shar'ia.

Frankly, I'm growin' kinda fond of the Sufis and Ba'hai.

Very unfortunately, so little is available in English about Wahabi theology, that I cannot say for certain how the Wahabis picture the Mahdi; though I am willing to make some wild guesses.

46 posted on 10/21/2002 1:12:21 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: ganesha
*** Afterward, Jesus will break all crosses, kill all pigs, and make Islam the worlds only religious faith. ***

Is that before or after the sun rises in the west?

47 posted on 10/21/2002 1:20:19 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
*** Afterward, Jesus will break all crosses, kill all pigs, and make Islam the worlds only religious faith. ***
Is that before or after the sun rises in the west?

Some imams interpret that as meaning that the "sun" of Islam will "rise" in the West.

48 posted on 10/21/2002 2:02:29 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
I think Jesus is more likely to consider Mohammed to be one of the false prophets He warned us about, than to make Islam the world's only religion.
49 posted on 10/21/2002 2:25:50 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Aquinasfan; Dajjal; Admin Moderator
The reason that the sheeple will never hear about this is that the liberals who populate the media cannot accept as a logical possibility that people can be motivated by religious belief. Ultimately for them, all conflict must be based on some kind of class struggle.

I agree. This thread should be in the news section so that it will alert a broader audience to the Muslim mindset. If we see some Muslim leader claiming the characteristics of the Mahdi and whipping up the fanatics in a frenzy our ignorance could lead to some serious consequences.

50 posted on 10/21/2002 4:45:04 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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